Supporters of Luigi Mangione insist he is being framed, despite New York detectives saying they have enough evidence to prove he murdered UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson.
I get why people like him, but some of y’all need to get your heads on straight and understand the gravity of the situation. Murder shouldn’t be given a free pass if the target was unpopular enough. You can both appreciate him and also recognize that it’s reasonable to hold him in jail at the same time. Society isn’t, and shouldn’t be treated as, a one dimensional thing.
The thing is, most people aren’t celebrating this as “murder”, they’re celebrating it as self-defense.
Imagine someone walks into your home and starts waving a gun around, threatening to kill your kids. It’s completely uncontroversial that in that situation, you have a right (perhaps even an obligation) to defend yourself and anyone else in immediate danger.
Now imagine instead you’re in a hospital room, and your kid has an autoimmune disease that’s shredded their lungs. A ventilator is the only thing keeping them alive while they wait for a lung transplant. The same guy comes in, but instead of waving a gun around he says he’s going to unhook the ventilator. Why is this different? Why do you have a right to defense in one situation and not the other? Sure, CEOs aren’t literally walking into hospital rooms and pulling plugs, but Charles Manson didn’t walk into homes killing people and we all agree he deserved to be convicted of murder. They’re directing subordinates and directing systems to kill people, on purpose.
The working class is under siege by people who are willing to sacrifice our lives in the interest of corporate profits. We have a right to defend ourselves.
Did his act prevent the imminent death of another who was being threatened by the man he killed? That’s what self defence is about.
If you believe something strongly enough to sacrifice for it that’s fine, but to go around pretending that everything popular should be consequence free is childish. If you want to get involved in such serious matters, you ought to be a hell of a lot smarter than people are acting.
Honestly most likely at least some due to the mass outrage sparked by the killing, yes. It is at least likely that some in the health insurance industry are reconsidering the level of shit they can get away with. For example, immediately after the killing:
Seems more like a live by the sword die by the sword kind of thing. Luigi absolutely should be arrested. Luigi should absolutely be prosecuted. A jury of his peers should absolutely give them a Westworld verdict, “doesn’t look like anything to me”.
I think that would send a powerful message that the rank and file American public is willing to guillotine a few CEOs if that’s what it takes to fix this problem.
I don’t care if his job was legal. I don’t care if The law is on his side. I just don’t care. The law allows people to deny care using an unthinking machine that can’t be held responsible all in the pursuit of keeping the money that was paid to the company to provide that care.
Nope, I’m sorry. If you want a recipe for how to be unpersoned, there you go. If we don’t call what soldiers do on the battlefield murder I’m going to have a tough time calling this murder.
I get why people like him, but some of y’all need to get your heads on straight and understand the gravity of the situation. Murder shouldn’t be given a free pass if the target was unpopular enough. You can both appreciate him and also recognize that it’s reasonable to hold him in jail at the same time. Society isn’t, and shouldn’t be treated as, a one dimensional thing.
The thing is, most people aren’t celebrating this as “murder”, they’re celebrating it as self-defense.
Imagine someone walks into your home and starts waving a gun around, threatening to kill your kids. It’s completely uncontroversial that in that situation, you have a right (perhaps even an obligation) to defend yourself and anyone else in immediate danger.
Now imagine instead you’re in a hospital room, and your kid has an autoimmune disease that’s shredded their lungs. A ventilator is the only thing keeping them alive while they wait for a lung transplant. The same guy comes in, but instead of waving a gun around he says he’s going to unhook the ventilator. Why is this different? Why do you have a right to defense in one situation and not the other? Sure, CEOs aren’t literally walking into hospital rooms and pulling plugs, but Charles Manson didn’t walk into homes killing people and we all agree he deserved to be convicted of murder. They’re directing subordinates and directing systems to kill people, on purpose.
The working class is under siege by people who are willing to sacrifice our lives in the interest of corporate profits. We have a right to defend ourselves.
Did his act prevent the imminent death of another who was being threatened by the man he killed? That’s what self defence is about.
If you believe something strongly enough to sacrifice for it that’s fine, but to go around pretending that everything popular should be consequence free is childish. If you want to get involved in such serious matters, you ought to be a hell of a lot smarter than people are acting.
Honestly most likely at least some due to the mass outrage sparked by the killing, yes. It is at least likely that some in the health insurance industry are reconsidering the level of shit they can get away with. For example, immediately after the killing:
I had a doctors appointment earlier this week and stuff I’ve been trying to get treated for years got approved
Seems more like a live by the sword die by the sword kind of thing. Luigi absolutely should be arrested. Luigi should absolutely be prosecuted. A jury of his peers should absolutely give them a Westworld verdict, “doesn’t look like anything to me”.
I think that would send a powerful message that the rank and file American public is willing to guillotine a few CEOs if that’s what it takes to fix this problem.
I don’t care if his job was legal. I don’t care if The law is on his side. I just don’t care. The law allows people to deny care using an unthinking machine that can’t be held responsible all in the pursuit of keeping the money that was paid to the company to provide that care.
Nope, I’m sorry. If you want a recipe for how to be unpersoned, there you go. If we don’t call what soldiers do on the battlefield murder I’m going to have a tough time calling this murder.
Yes, it absolutely should be given a free pass. Brian Thompson was an enemy combatant in the class war, and responsible for many deaths.