The executive producer on Netflix’s The Witcher has blamed American audiences and social media sites such as TikTok for…

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      The Witcher 3 is one of the best selling games ever, and is considered by critics and fans alike to be one of the best games of its genre ever. This guy is a fucking clown.

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        Yes, came here to say this. Thank you for your services. American executive never own any failures. Claw back their bonuses, fucking brain piece of shits can’t even do their jobs anymore.

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      Yea but that’s only because the game has lots of pretty, moving pictures. And the books have pretty covers.

      I’m American, so I can’t even read. I noticed some symbols in the show that could be conceived as trying to impart words or ideas, and it just turned me right off.

      You might be asking yourself: “If I can’t read, then how did I understand and respond to this topic?”, and I would then respond: “SHUT UP VOICES IN MY HEAD!”

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        Great comment, but could have used a more realistic scenario of using a screen reader/dictation software to comment. It’s okay though, I get that you needed to simplify it for the American audiences.

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    When it flops they’ll blame Americans too. Narcissists are incapable of assuming responsibility for their own failures.

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    We made it this way because you’re stupid. Also, if you don’t like it, you’re stupid.

    No wonder it turned out to be a pile of dogshit.

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      It’s worse, he’s smashing his face with it and yet refuses to acknowledge the parking sign while complaining about some other imaginary obstacle instead.

      If it were true that Americans & social media wanted such simplified plot, it would have been more successful than it was.

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    Yeah, blame your customers.

    Simplifying is really different from what they did which is completely alter characters, unnecessarily kill off characters, introduce new plots that didn’t exist, etc. The Lord of the Rings movies, and the recent Dune movie both did a lot of that but are considered fantastic adaptations. Even Game of Thrones was an excellent adaptation for the first ~5 seasons and had huge mass market appeal while still being complex.

    This is just shitty writers making excuses.

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      man the dune movie was so interesting sounding and watching it was such a … idk… it was an experience. There was so much stuff that seemed so loosely strung together to the point of feeling almost baffling. I wouldn’t think LoTR or early GoT are comparable?

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        You might need to go back and watch it again. I had a completely different experience, and I found the plot rather cohesive. It’s one of the best movies I’ve ever seen in my opinion.

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    I know everyone thinks I’m a brittle American, but I’m kind of sick of everyone blaming Americans for choices that are made by people who think poorly of Americans.

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      As a general rule, the people making decisions to simplify things because they think Americans can’t handle a complex source ARE Americans.

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          I understand that.

          My point is your original comment said you were sick of people blaming Americans for something that is literally being done by Americans.

          The bland media algorithm designed to maximize profits, the “MCU formula”, comes straight from the top. People who see media simply in terms of investment vehicles for thier quarterly shareholders reports are the ones who lay down this law, and those “people” are overwhelmingly American business interests.

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            I know what you meant. There is such a thing as self-hatred, or thinking you’re the only exceptional member of a group. And there’s also such a thing as don’t trash the majority with the actions of a small minority, particularly a small minority that thinks they are better than the majority.

            My point is that the reason this was dumbed down is that movie execs THINK Americans need that, not that Americans need that. Movie execs just think the average American is dumber than a movie exec.

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    Sounds like sour grapes and rationalization. The producer states that his complicated projects failed. If all of your complicated projects failed, then it may be that you struggle with making complicated projects, not that Americans don’t like complicated projects.

    Plus, it sounds like he disproves his own point without realizing it. He simplified the Witcher and it still isn’t doing well. Isn’t that an indicator that maybe plot complexity isn’t as strong of a predictor of audience engagement as he thinks?

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      And yet Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon are both in the same fantasy genre with complex storylines and they did great in the US.

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    This is coming from someone who never even read the books and got in fights with HC because of deviating from the world of the books/games?

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    Yup cause Amaricans wrote the script and decided against the millions of of fans (including the lead actor) who specifically said the new direction sucked directly to the entire production team… yup amaricans.

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    He’s really blaming the execs and showrunner between the lines I think. Saying she had to “make tough decisions” means “she fucked up”. It’s Netflix and the showrunner who think they need to go to the lowest common denominator with scripts to appeal to Americans, especially hard fantasy/sci-fi. So he’s kinda pissed at both groups really not just audiences.

    It’s a shame because other works like GOT 1-5 show the opposite. Go for complex, go for the source material, and audiences will be patient for it.

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      Then blame execs and showrunners, not the audience. American audiences are savvier than he thinks, just because he had one pitch that didn’t fare well with American audiences doesn’t mean that they won’t embrace more complicated elements of The Witcher.

      Plus it just sounds sad; blame audiences for something you, as a producer, can’t effectively produce.

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    I blame the fact that the producer doesn’t give a single fuck about the story.

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    The tale of producers dumbing down plot and dialogue for greater main stream appeal is as old as show business. And from my experience said producers are almost always wrong. Sorry pal, but you can’t blame social media for something your peers have always been doing.

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    Game of Thrones was the most popular show in the world not too long ago and is more complicated. House of the Dragon is also complicated and did well just last year. There have been tons of complicated dramas that have been popular. This is just a dumb excuse

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    While I’ve enjoyed seasons past, including the animated bit they put out that one year, after watching an episode and a half of the first half of this last season 3 a couple things became clear, there are too many subplots/characters to the point that I simply tune out all the names and don’t care, focusing instead on the main three, and lastly that I’m bored. It’s become something tiresome, and I shut it off after a couple episodes, maybe I’ll revisit, probably not.

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      It doesn’t get better. S3 is so far detached from what season 1 brought to the table as to be mockery. The acting feels so forced in this one.

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          Yeah same, I was really hoping the witcher show would turn out great but then when they first showed the nilfgaard armours before S1 I lost hope and my fear turned out to be justified.