This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let’s be civil.

And if you’re a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    If he gets caught, then I’d say yes. Murder should be treated as murder regardless of what the reason is. Making exceptions is never a good idea.

    I just hope he doesn’t get caught.

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    4 months ago

    Maybe get a fine for .0005% of their net worth. You know, so they don’t do it again.

    That’s how it works, right?

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      Even if he’s caught. Dudes going to get off if he demands a Jury trial. Not a single middle class or poor individual in America has a positive relationship with health insurance. Hell how does a prosecutor even screen jurors for this type of trial?

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    4 months ago

    Do you want to see the people who killed Osama Bin Laden prosecuted?
    Because the United Heath CEO killed far more people, including many more children, than Bin Laden did on 9/11.

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    Yes, hell yes.

    Get this man in a court room. Let the prosecutors spend weeks trying to find a jury where no one (or any of their relatives and friends) has been fucked over for life because of shitty insurance.

    Let them talk about how unstoppable, determined, and committed the defendant was.

    And then have the jury nullify the case.

    It would be a good day to be alive.

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    I want to see a trial.

    I also want to start a go fund me for his or her legal defence find.

    I’d love to see a well funded law firm make the argument that the shooter acted in defence of self and others and drag all of UHC bullshit under a very large and uncomfortable deposition microscope to prove the CEO was responsible for letting people die.

    Maybe we could even start putting these health insurance CEOs on trial for all the wrongful deaths they’re causing without needing someone to take justice into their own hands first.

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      Absolutely no chance for justice in this system for this person. Musk bought a president that staged a coup 4 years ago. The potato supreme has a member that flew the flag of that coup, they are openly corrupt and have no checks or balances. That is the entire foundation of the legislative system and government. This guy was We the People and far closer to a real justice system than anything from this shit government.

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      I don’t think he would make it to trial. The wealthy don’t appreciate those who unite the public against them, and they certainly wouldn’t want him to send another message by having the chance to explain his motives.

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      Id love to see him go to trial, and funds raised through gofundme are used to buy off the jurors and judge. It only makes sense that if the rich can use money to make their problems go away, the poor should be able to do so as well. And that is still within our “legal framwork”

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    Jury selection question to weed out biased jurors: “Have you ever had a claim that was unfairly denied?”

    Weeks later: “We have been unable to find enough jurors to try the case.”

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    Absofuckinglutely not. I want him to never be found and continue to off health insurance CEOs one by one until we get universal healthcare like the rest of the developed world. And after he’s through with them there’s a whole list of other rich assholes that the world would be better off without, starting with the defense contractors.

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    Yes, in a world where judges can’t be bought and criminals don’t get Epstein’d.

    I want fair justice as much fair justice can be attained by humanity. But in that kind of world, this type of murderer wouldn’t exist in the first place.

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    If he gets caught, yes. I want to believe in the process of our law. And part of our laws support jury nullification. Now whether or not i would personally vote to convict/nullify is something I’ve been reflecting on and I’m not sure how i would vote. I do believe murder is wrong, but im also interested to know the actual data behind how many people died because claims were denied by united health group. We have two murderers, one who blatantly broke the law and one who did it within the law to make 22 billion in profit in 2023. How many people died to make that profit? And do those deaths make murder right? Idk.

    • That data would be inadmissible in the murder trial. Lethal force is only privileged in response to an imminent lethal threat that the privileged act is the only way to avoid. The shooter’s life was not in immediate danger and killing the CEO isn’t likely to change the policies. You’d have to make your decision in the jury box without it.

      I agree if caught he should be prosecuted. I’d be real conflicted about it but I could convict. He either did it or didn’t.

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    No. If murdering cops can get away with it, so should someone who killed a guy who has indirectly killed millions through the racket that is health insurance.

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    I think if they catch him they sort of have to. It’s up to the police to drag their heels investigating if they want to avoid that.

    It will be interesting to see if jury nullification comes into play if he gets caught and there is a trial. Would at least 1/12 jurors refuse to convict despite the law? The main facebook post about the CEO’s death has a 26-1 ratio of laughing emoji to crying emoji…