very smart Idiot

I’d be better off without seeing this.

Better than their CGI shit-show.

Yes I understood by now that gender is mental. But now tell me, how it does differentiate from a delusion.

Because, again, there is a difference between gender identity and biological sex. For most people, they align (male sex + male gender = alignment). For trans people, it doesn’t. Your body will be one thing, but your brain tells you that your body is wrong. This isn’t a “delusion”, it’s a recognized condition called dysphoria (there are studies that show there’s a difference in the brain that causes this).

But even if my brain would not be perfectly adequate for my biological anatomy, then the mind could still adapt. Peoples brains have proven to adapt to virtually anything. Even the functions of damaged brain tissue can be replaced by other parts of the brain. We are so adaptive, that I still ask myself, why trans people do not adapt. We come to this world in a body, and only one. Might as well care for it as good as possible. My brain would also like me to look more handsome, but I am ugly af. I am pretty sure that my brain is rather similar to the brains of good looking people. Is this also some kind of dysphoria? Do I need to identify with Someone good looking? No. Of course not. I have to do the best possible with what I was born with.

We would usually arrange just fine if we would have been born in a body of a different sex. Because we adapt.

Correct, and humans would adapt by assuming the gender roles of the sex / gender they feel they align with.

What I meant was adapting to the surrounding. What you are referring to is adapting the conditions to one’s liking. Something humans do all too often, forcing nature the way they want it to be. That’s not adaptation. That’s conquering.

I would do just fine in a female body. I wouldn’t care much.

Awesome, but there are many trans individuals who realize that they’re trans but don’t care to transition or change their body, and the cool thing is, that doesn’t make them any less valid. Everyone is different.

Then I do not understand the term trans. Is trans not short for transitioning? Is my understanding, the basis of my attitude, a false assumption?

Why would I even see a problem in my sex or gender or whatever if I have problems that annoy me so much more?

Pretty simply, because for some people, the problem with their gender (gender dysphoria) is stronger than problems that would annoy others much more. Again, everyone is different.

I guess this is different for each individual.

The belief to be born in the wrong body is delusion.

Well like I said previously, it’s not a belief, it’s a difference in the brain. You might think it’s a belief and a delusion, but science says you’re wrong.

But while the structure of a brain might be an indicator for behavioural tendencies, the brain intel self and the human mind is quite very adaptable. Growing up in a body familiarises our brain structure with the workings of our body. Repeated tasks endive the creation of additional Ca2+ canals on the synapses. The link between body control and mind is reinforced, the more we act. So in the long run, every kind of mind, every believed gender should and could familiarise with every kind of body.

Some people believe into the bible.

And many people don’t. I was raised to be a Christian, and quickly ditched that bs as soon as I figured out I could think for myself. I don’t think the words written in a book that a group of people follow should be the key to how people should live their lives. Ironically though, there isn’t anything in the bible that suggests transgender is delusional or wrong.

This was not the point I was trying to make. I wanted to compare the belief into genders to the belief into the bible, as to my understanding (and partly my belief) both come from a point of irrational beliefs.

In biblical times, there were eunuchs (believed to be early trans people), and Jesus actually supported them.

I usually don’t like articles from organisations that might be biased. And this organisation seems to have an objective. But this article was alright. But as I said, I am no christian, I quit a decade ago, when it came to light, that those pervs couldn’t stop touching children.

But I refuse to accept a delusion as reality. And I do not want to be forced to pretend to believe into your delusion.

Besides the fact that it’s not delusion, what is it do you feel like you’re being forced to do? If someone wishes to be addressed by a certain pronoun, you won’t comply?

I am fairly opinionated by now. I now perceive and believe gender to be a delusion. A harmless delusion though. But one I do not want to be involved with.

If someone asks me, that I address them with a specific pronoun, then I would most likely comply. I do not want to make enemies. And I do not see any sense in arguing about it. I wouldn’t argue with a Christian or Muslim either, even though I believe they’re religions to be superstition.

But as I firmly believe that biology is characterising two sexes in most species on this world, I wouldn’t like the right to be taken from me to address people with the pronoun that I would assign to them based on my assumption of their sex.

I do not believe that “deadnaming” should be illegal. I wouldn’t do it, but I do not accept the perceived reality of my counterpart in a meeting. This of course means that you can use any pronoun you want in a discussion with me. I might not like it, but if the discussion is worth it, I’d go on.

How does anyone being transgender affect your life in any real way, whatsoever?

It’s 99% the media. It makes a big thing about the small minority of transgender people. And the politicians join into the hymn in the hopes of more votes. But this constant moral teachings are wearing on the nerves.

Yes I understood by now that gender is mental. But now tell me, how it does differentiate from a delusion.

If gender is a mental association with a sexual construct, then it is purely imaginary. And what value does it have then?

In everyone’s brain is the structure of a human consciousness. And this consciousness is a survival and problem solving apparatus. It does not need to identify with anything. It just needs to control the conscious bodily functions.

The human consciousness is independent from gender. We would usually arrange just fine if we would have been born in a body of a different sex. Because we adapt.

I would do just fine in a female body. I wouldn’t care much. I don’t identify with my sex because I do not identify with some twisted sexual construct. I am a human consciousness in a flesh suit. And as long as I can do my daily tasks with that flesh suit, then life is alright. At least as good as it possibly can be.

Why would I even see a problem in my sex or gender or whatever if I have problems that annoy me so much more? Occasionally my knees hurt, because I was running way too much in the past. I got a bit chubby then, which annoys me greatly, my eyesight has decreased immensely since I started studying in university, because of all this time I spend in front of books and screens. And I am especially frustrated that I am not as bright as I would like to be. I want to know everything, I want to know how this universe works, into the smallest detail, and yet I am struggling due to laziness. My biggest enemy and challenge in life. Gender is a luxury problem. And a worldwide view proves me right.

The belief to be born in the wrong body is delusion. That doesn’t mean that I do not accept if people want plastic surgery. You do you. I owe you your right to believe I to your delusion. Can’t do much anyway. Some people believe into the bible.

But I refuse to accept a delusion as reality. And I do not want to be forced to pretend to believe into your delusion.

I am from Germany. Everything of substance must (and can) be defined and described clearly. I am thinking hard about it, because it needs to make sense to have an actual value to me. And I have been trying. But I fail and have yet to see someone succeed.

If a replicable description/definition of an idea or concept does not exist, then this concept or this idea is flawed and needs correction/rethinking. Or, if with substantial efforts, no clear definition can be made out, then the concept/the idea needs to be discarded and we move along to the next idea/concept we might see take shape.

Well. Kill all men is still a rather popular hashtag on Twitter. Also found this article about something similar. (Why it’s not ok to say “kill all men”) But unfortunately I cannot find the video that I was referring to.

It’s not really hard to understand. Gender and sex are different things.

And still people claim that there is the male gender and the female gender. So there clearly is a connection, is there not?

Trans rights debates aren’t ignoring biology, because gender has nothing to do with biology (that would be sex).

I had many interesting discussions about gender. And I really was open to all kinds of opinions. And I believe that I still am. But so far no one could clearly tell me what gender is. Is it a social construct? Is it connected to sex? If not, why are there two genders called male and female? Wait there are more than 2 genders? How many are there? 50, 60? Oh no, gender is a spectrum. A spectrum of what? Of what people feel like? Feel like happy, sad? NOPE, It’s sexual - but in a thought concept only! What use does that have? If it’s a spectrum, then I cannot grasp it, it’s vague and it cannot be communicated. Everything so far speaks against the existence of gender. Because even the origin of gender studies are about the social dynamics between the male sex and female sex.

In simpler terms, sex is determined by biology - genetics, genitals you were born with, etc., and gender is determined by what an individual perceives themselves to be.

“determined by what an individual perceives themselves to be.” And here we get into the absolutely ridiculous part of the gender idea. Some delusional people believe themselves to be medical experts. Does that make them a doctor? Or does their gender become “doctor”?

Gender ideology is a piece of clay that dried out while it was still formed.

Trans right activists have pushed far too strong and too far. Probably as well in a reactionary sense to an extremist right position.

What does this even mean? Why is there a speed limit on giving people equal rights?

Regardless of the current topic, every social and cultural development needs a speed limit. Radical change leads to radical currents. Because unchecked socio-cultural development depends on people. It does not involve people, but issues a dictate. And whether this dictate is progressive and positive is a moot point. But oppressive constraints lead to counter-movements.

What did trans people do to make republicans kick them out of bathrooms and legislate away pronouns?

First of all, trans people were assigned a gender at birth.

And what is written on a document, that’s what’s valid. Accordingly, Republicans are not kicking trans people out of bathrooms, they are maintaining the status quo and enforcing an enforcement of the current norms.

Your point is more that Republicans are standing in the way of trans people making a change in their documents that legally assures them the use of the bathroom they want.

I’m not going to bother continuing to respond to your other points. You’re clearly a bigot/transphobic. You think they deserve this.

This is unfortunate. I would have liked to further discuss this.

Can’t find the source. Just some feminists asking for all men to die.

But there was some video of some parade where a choir started to shout something along “death to all men”.

Now just think about how this radicalises the people that hear that. Then they radicalise themselves and become the reason for counterradicalisation.

And so Society swings itself to new heights of confrontation

Well. In some twisted way it is polarising and broken.

Trans right activists have pushed far too strong and too far. Probably as well in a reactionary sense to an extremist right position.

Trans right debates have gone so far to ignore biology in a sense. Forcing an idea that there are multiple genders. An idea everyone should be entitled to have, but no one should be forced to believe so.

There are trans people activists calling for the death of all men, again in a reactionary sense against positions of the far right, whom themselves have been polarised further.

It doesn’t matter who started. But the spiral doesn’t seem to end anytime soon.

Politics has become an utter clown show. No matter who is in power, it always ends up to be some weirdo.

Is it rly a surprise that people lean further left and further right, into the extreme political right and the extreme political left?

Where else should people go, when what used to be the compromise of reason has become the embodiment of failure?

Why is it that cats are so interested in paper boxes (or small rooms they can squeeze in) at all?

Nah, it’s all right. I like Opera. But I also like Firefox, edge and iOS Safari (I absolutely hate Safari on MacOS).

Most of the browsers run smooth and slight differences in speed are rather unnoticeable for the normal everyday user. So you should not rly care about the opinions of others. Use what you like best.

I give you that. Just a few were directly involved in innovation.

But the rich do quite successfully create the framework conditions for innovation and development. Mostly driven by profit, but a world based purely on goodwill fails at the first doubter, the first who does not want to participate. So capitalism is what we got. And so far it has proven to be more resilient than other systems.

I have no motive other than my own profit. And I do not profit from a conversation here, other than to quench my thirst for discussion.

So please refrain from accusing me of propaganda.

I’m just fascinated with how brains like yours work. Assuming any of this is in good faith, that is.

I am a connoisseur of discussion. A man who enjoys discourse. But indeed what I stated are my firm beliefs. And those beliefs have not yet failed me.

It’s like you just refuse to accept new information that may change how you view things.

It always depends on the information. Some information just has less weight to it.

You’re so resistant to admitting (to yourself, it seems) that you might be wrong, that your brain has “mechanisms” for making sure you never even have to consider the possibility.

Now I feel like I’ve been put on the spot. This might apply on some of my standpoints. But none so far in our discussion here.

Every single point anyone makes, you are able to come up with some “counter” that, in your mind, confirms that you’ve always been right (it doesn’t),

Oh, just because the Information I have given, does not convince you or support your standpoint, doesn’t make it invalid. I’d like to pull up the Infinite Monkey Theorem at this point. A few false informations can also lead to the correct outcome. But now I have lost the thread.

and everyone who’s arguing with you is just trying to trick you into admitting you were wrong, or that you learned something.

And are you not trying to prove me wrong? Is it not, that you claim my standpoints to be somewhat flawed, and yours must be the ultimate ratio?

It can never just be, “hey I didn’t know that about my country, that’s interesting. Maybe I should reconsider…”

I do reconsider when it’s to my benefit. But as said before, my standpoints have yet to fail me.

Because, you know, Germany has been the most financially successful EU nation basically since he inception of the Union, so your counter that worker stake in companies doesn’t work is not based in reality. They’re fucking thriving.

Average wealth per person in Germany is lower than in Italy or Greece. some german article to back up my claims Germany are not thriving. The German government is thriving.

You (allegedly) live there, my guy. Learn about why your own country is so successful.

Because it has the highest and second highest taxes in many sectors. And the government uses this money to influence other countries to their benefit. My people are not thriving. I wished for a concept similar to Switzerland. Still high taxes, but the money stays in the country without attempts to control European politics.

The lengths you will go to avoid learning something new or admitting you might have been wrong about something… Like it’s protecting itself from new information. It’s fascinating.

From my standpoint of course, this is the opposite standpoint.

Wow, how much time did you waste on this one?

Too much.

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You successfully stole a few minutes of my life. Time I could have spent on studying and working further to my ultimate goal: becoming the next German dictator.

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Keep going, maybe I’ll actually read the next one.

First I need some unrealistic opinions to react to.

(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ Some more of your beliefs will do just fine.

The stuff about energy costs is also nothing to do with taxes but rather Germany’s energy policy missteps.

Nah. To my knowledge we have the second highest tax on energy worldwide. Has always been this way. It’s a tax thing.

Also the author randomly referring to “Genderforschern” und “Gleichstellungsbeauftragten” at the end damages the credibility of the article a lot - seems very culture-war motivated.

The article is written by a left leaning press. So if you allow yourself to suggest non-neutrality, then they should be in favour of your argument.

I agree that the way in which the taxes are implemented and how the bureaucracy works has a major impact though. But this doesn’t mean taxing the rich is imppssible, just needs to be done right, like all policy.

The rich have yachts and housing all around the world. No tax policy can stop them from running and getting citizenship from a country that take skews taxes.

I do. Because you are still here. Arguing on the internet, a cesspool of morons, you and I included.

Rich people waste time arguing with morons on the internet all the time! Have you seen Musk’s Twitter feed lately?

That dude is actively trying to shape the opinion of people for his own interest. I am confident that this is work to him. He already did this with crypto or with the Tesla stock price. It’s marketing and marketing is work as well. All the political left are already supporting the idea of electric vehicles. Now it’s time for the conservatives. And musk is luring them towards his company.

In fact the only reason I am doing this is because I have time to kill; and that’s only possible thanks to the fact that I am wealthy enough to take days off work pretty much whenever I want, without fearing starvation. Unlike ~90% of people globally who live paycheck to paycheck.

So I guess you are not building something yourself? You just work a well paying job? I can’t rly believe that.

The idea that rich people are always busy being productive is simply wrong. I know enough of them personally to know that most of their ‘working’ hours aren’t very strenuous to say the least.

It what kin of rich are you talking about? Is it the super rich, that people claim need to pay higher tax rates? Or is it the “rich” pharmacist or doctor living next door?

https://www.readthemaple.com/i-was-born-wealthy-and-know-rich-people-dont-work-harder-than-you/

Because events, such as Corona and the ausraube war temporarily lower the estimated gains. Losses are expected. So the value weds to be corrected according to those losses.

Have you heard of the 2008 crash? Dot com bubble? SVB, FTX and other crypto crap, etc? Markets crash regularly regardless of Corona or wars.

Yes I heard about them. But these bubbles exploding because of miso reduction into the future. Prediction that was more plausible in earlier stages. And the stock market is in fact trying to project the future. One cannot invest into the past.

Also the fact that markets fail to consider wars and pandemics, whereas experts were warning about these for years before they happened, is further evidence that we can do better than relying on markets for everything.

Nah, the markets acted according to warnings. Especially he Ukraine war. The values dropped, when Russia collected its soldiers at the border, and when US experts warned of the impending attack, publicly, the value dropped even further.

There must be some way to develop a system of knowledge aggregation, decisionmaking, and resource allocation that isn’t prone to ignoring very obvious risks.

An ideal system does not exist. The one we have is fairly reactive.

Greenwashing is only done in media. Company winnings and numbers don’t lie. (Except if they do. Fuck wirecard)

Company winnings and numbers lie all the time. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wx51CffrBIg https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y9KPcQqG0ao

Yes, fraud is still a thing. But usually it can be spotted in the data. Sometimes sooner, sometimes later.

There are countless cases of companies making shit up and markets and investors falling for it.

Yea. Such as Theranos? I knew that it was fake back then. I was wrong though with Wirecard. But there is no system resilient against fraud.

In the last link it literally says: “These comparatively low wages can make it very difficult to recruit managers from investor-owned firm”

These concepts only work in relatively small companies. And first off all, this company might be ranked relatively high in Spain, but it still is just Spain.

Further, to my understanding, the group could be actually described as multiple smaller companies housed under a big one. So that explains that party.

I know that some people claim that. But in their mind they would rather stop airlines and flight overall.

And since this is unreasonable, compensation should be the second best step in your mind?

Because I don’t care. But from your standpoint it should be better than no compensation, right?