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  • Marching it the streets.

    Mass protests.

    Malicious compliance.

    Organized disruptions of everyday life.

    Sabotage.

    All that first.

    Guns are for when they refuse those.

    You are a literal years ahead of the curve when it comes to lasting change. Be a martyr if you want. I dont care. But if we didnt follow behind luigi, we arent there yet. So shoot someone and get gunned down. Be my guest. You first.

    Have you even done the bare minimum of protest before advocating for fucking violence? Are you lazy or just an armchair antagonizer?




  • Canada and mexico will absolutely crater first if pushed. Canada can maybe afford it short term and make trump blink first. They have a better position. Sheinbaum, for all the credit ill give her for not being a complete stooge like a good portion of the world expected, is in a much tighter predicament. I want her to go toe to toe. She has showed she isnt a puppet. But i dont think she can afford to hold out as long as necessary. Politically or economically.




  • Dairy farmer here, who fought this crap off when we still didnt know what it was.

    Bird flu contaminated raw milk in cats, yeah it will kill the shit out of them. Its what helped us figure out what it was in the first place. Nothing confirmed so far as humans being infected from consumption that i am aware of currently, but i personally wouldnt try it.

    The dairy workers that got bird flu. It was pinkeye that popped positive for h5. Probably splashback from either milk or fecal. It wasnt really a big deal other than conjunctivitis sucks.

    But if you drink raw milk, you are playing russian roulette as patient zero at this point. Dont do it.




  • Ah i understand. No problem.

    The current vector that is infecting dairies is from infected wild bird populations. We cant stop that. Blackbirds pigeons starlings finches. Theres too much bird food around everywhere. Cow to cow transmittion from one location to another is not really a factor. Its wild birds.

    My dairy has implemented extra tracking in the form of, well, its basically a fitbit for cows. And with the data we collect, we can detect sick cows when they are still subclinical. It gives us a huge heads up and improves the health of the herd because we can start supportive treatment sooner. But it is not preventative.

    What we need is vaccinations. The poultry industry had vaccinations for decades for bird flu. They didnt use it. We could have a cow vaccine spun up in 6 weeks, but for some reason we couldnt get usda approval in the last year before trump. The likelihood of us getting that cow vaccine approved now… its not looking too good in my opinion.


  • Wash your hands. Dont drink raw milk.

    All employees are provided free diposible ppe. Gloves, face masks, face shields. No one really uses them, and from what we know of the virus, the risk even for those of us who are handling animals every day, is very very low. Im not worried about catching bird flu, im worried about my cows catching it. The negative health impacts in humans is small and low. It hasnt crossed over strongly enough to cause us damage.

    The farm workers that have been diagnosed with bird flu? It was conjunctivitis, aka pinkeye. Hardly something most people worry about.

    But on the other hand, the cows do get sick. Fatality is nonexistant to low, except for the west coast for some reason, but the cows do run fevers and do lose milk production. Its a virus, so the best care we can support our cattle with are supportive. Push water and electrolytes, give medicine to lower fever. And wait. Same as if your kid gets the flu.

    And last of all. Do. Not. Drink. Raw. Milk.

    If your cat drinks h5n1 infected milk, it will develope brain swelling and die. Currently nothing happens to humans, that we know of. But If all we have to do to prevent that is pasteurization, why wouldnt we? And if a wild mutation is all it takes to get a spillover event into humans, why would we take that risk?


  • There is currently no study that i have seen that has even hinted at any flu virus being transmitted through meat consumption.

    And biologically speaking, its not really a vector that any influenza virus would be a real threat in. The common vectors of air and saliva from breathing or coughing are where flu viruses excel.

    That being said, the usda has found that cooking temps as low as 120 degrees farenheight significally inactivate the virus.

    Where you should be worried is raw milk. Pasteurization was developed for a reason. The science is over a hundred years old. Before bird flu, i would occasionally run over to the dairy and fill up a jar of milk rather than go to the store. Just something for the morning cheerios when i was low on milk from the store. I will not do that now. Drinking raw milk now is like playing russian roulette with patient zero in a brand new pandemic. Do not do it. Pasteurized milk only.