• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Rape really needs to be up there with murder. He’s a serial rapist, he shouldn’t be getting out. he’ll just go back to abusing when he’s out.

    edit for the people attacking me on this:

    longer sentencing on rape and sexual abuse, less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has never been shown to increase the rate of murder, murdering a rape victim doesn’t help a rapist avoid detection, 90% of rapists target people they know well and can be easily linked to by police, a dead body is a much bigger problem than a rape accusation. and again, legislation changing sentencing has taken place in many places where I live in California this has happened repeatedly, once in the 80’s and once more recently at the least, and neither instance has led to an increase in murder rates, or the pattern of behavior of rapists or sexual abusers changing to include murder. they still target people they know and can gain power or authority over and abuse them and pressure them to be silent, not murder them. this theory that longer sentencing will make all rape become murder doesn’t make sense and hasn’t happened when sentences increased in the past

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      4 days ago

      Making rape punishment equal to that for murder makes killing rape victims a most logical choice for any rapist. Justice system must be proportional and not based on emotions alone to be effective.

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          2 days ago

          It is no, obviously. But it may be followed by more ‘logical’ actions. If the punishment is supposed to be a deterrent it should still be one after one crime has already been committed.

          • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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            Rape is followed by tactical actions that are still not rooted in reasonable logic, the entirety of a rape scenario from the perpetrator’s side of things is a rejection of reasonable/social logic in leu of predatory logic. Predators that crave murder are different from predators that crave dominance, even if they sometimes overlap. There are no statistics that show what you are trying to imply as a functional or observable variable and there have been plenty of places that have legally treated rape and murder as deserving equal punishment.

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        4 days ago

        I get the theory, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny, it’s never been positivity shown that legislation effects criminal behavior to that extent, most criminals think ‘‘I’ll never get caught’’ not ‘‘I can stomach the punishment’’

        edit for all the down votes: longer sentences and less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has happened, this has happened in CA where I live several times in fact, and murder rates have not gone up to meet the rate of rape or sexual abuse. this isn’t a thing that’s ever happened, and longer sentencing has never been shown to increase the rate of violent crimes, that’s not how rapists have been shown to behave or think. also deciding I’m being emotional by suggesting rape needs to be treated like murder in sentencing is foolish, I clearly said the reason is that rapists shouldn’t be allowed to reenter society, as they’ll continue to be rapists, and seek victims.