• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    On a technical level this is interesting. This was a robbery, not a social justice action. So money was the motive.

    The three guys came up with a new business model and started their own corporation (not registered) in their garage. They then took actions to gather funds from investors. The investors turned out to be unwilling and escalated to lethal force in an to attempt to dissuade the corporate representatives. In the ensueing negotiations representatives on each side were shot or otherwise injured. The blame here clearly rests with the investors who escalted to lethal force rather than just fund the corporation.

    Had this happened in the US, and caused a new business model that was very lucrative for some existing wealthy people, any crimes that occured in the process would be ignored. However, since the three individuals who formed the new corporation were not already wealthy, they would be caught and jailed.

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        11 hours ago

        Meh, it justice was their motive, they would have just killed the guy. They woke them up and demanded to know where the money was. Someone resisted and a gun fight broke out.

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          In a way you’re right. But we don’t know the exact situation. It’s like Marios bro sending a message. Was it a reasonable approach?

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    If this had happened in my neighborhood, or most of yours, none of us would now be hearing about it.

    Yet if it’s unconscionable for some, it’s unconscionable for all.

    As much as I regret that anyone goes through something like this, you cannot have a discussion about crime without also having a discussion about wealth inequality and poverty.

    But they’re only talking about the first part, so . . . I hate to say it, but zero fucks given. They can take care of themselves. Anyone living in Bridle Path, Toronto with Drake and Celine Dion is not going to have the same struggle as a working person who has inadequate or no health insurance but still has bills to pay and a family to feed in the aftermath of an attack like this.

    I would not wish it on them, but these ultra-rich folks ARE the problem that created the circumstances – the poverty and wealth inequality – that led to their own attack. And as such, they will have police, government, and medical lined up around the block to help them through this.

    They don’t need me to care too.

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      19 hours ago

      Actually, home invasions of that brutality would be in the local news here, no matter who the victim is.

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        7 hours ago

        If this had happened in my neighborhood, or most of yours, none of us would now be hearing about it.

        For anyone living in a greater metropolitan area in North America with a home value of under $10mil, home invasions do NOT get reported locally, and certainly not internationally. This made the news because of the neighborhood, which out of the hundreds of small neighborhoods in the greater Toronto area even has its own Wikipedia page.

        It is moneyed. It is exclusive. It also now not as safe as it was once believed to be by its residents, high walls and everything.

        And here you are, pretending like the money isn’t the news. But I saw you coming and left an exception just for you, lol. If you’d read further than the first phrase before you got offended you’d have seen it for yourself.

        The money, and not the attack itself, is why this is being reported worldwide on billionaire-run media: the news is that big money failed to protect in the exact situation where it was expected to protect its owners the most.

        That has all kinds of connotations for the ultra-rich, not least in regard to the politicians and lawmakers they buy.

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          14 hours ago

          Fair point. But I wanted to make clear that such crimes do get coverage, as that was questioned above. It is also right that they hardly will get international coverage.

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    I love that they mentioned this motherfucker’s a CEO. (And an uber bastardly real estate CEO at that.) How I think about this crime is 100% going to be different if it’s a super-rich wealthy bastard rather than a poor, single mother or a facsimile of that.

    Reminds me of that time when an outspoken gun advocate took a bullet to the neck.

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      11 hours ago

      Also… The disproportionate police response when it’s wealthy and/or connected people compared to poor everyman Joe and/or a minority is as frustrating as it is sad.