• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      Americans elect a moron to the presidency every ten to fifteen years going back to the country’s founding.

      It’s not a matter of recovery so much as a hurdle that liberal democracy routinely stumbles over.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        7 days ago

        George W. Bush was not that long ago. He (too) won with a popular minority. He won by shenanigans in Florida with the help of a partisan SCOTUS.

        Bush ran as a compassionate conservative_ but he moved hard-right as soon as he was in office. He started abusing power such as his conspicuous legal-boilerplate signing statements. (Essentially, _I don’t have to enforce this law, IF i don’t want to.) He immediately started rolling back environmental and consumer protections.

        Then 9/11 happened, and we went to war, and language started pivoting towards Iraq and WMDs. Joseph Wilson wrote an article about how there’s no yellowcake (processed uranium) and to get revenge, the administration (via Scooter Libby) burned the CIA operative Valerie Plame, which was once a huge offense to the intelligence sector during the Cold War. I’m still sore about it, but I’m still sore about much of the Bush administration.

        Soon we started learning about the extrajudicial abductions of Arab, Muslim, Americans, extraordinary rendition (to black sites), torture, the prison camp in Guantanamo Bay, the PMC black ops (precursors to drone-strikes) and so on.

        It was awful. So much that the Democrats were taking seriously blaxk and women candidates for the first time. So much so, that Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, mostly for not being Bush. (Even he was surprised.)

        I thought the US would never elect a Republican again.

        I totally overestimated the civic savvy of American voters.

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          6 days ago

          I thought the US would never elect a Republican again.

          People said that after Nixon and Reagan. But it all exists in a vacuum. No real consideration of why any Republicans got elected in the first place or who voted for them the first time.

          Also, you’re completely divorced from right wing media. The consumption of this fascist propaganda hasn’t stopped. The production of new fascist IP hasn’t slowed. Consolidation by new fascist business interests hasn’t been disrupted.

          What do you think is going to happen in two years, when Dems are running the House and maybe the Senate? They’ll be getting screamed at by all the fascists who were screaming at them under Obama. It’ll be back to 2008. Twenty years, nothing fundamentally changed

    • WizardOfFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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      7 days ago

      Nor do you deserve to.

      You created the culture that put him there. You allow him to remain there. None of the problems associated with Trump have much to do with Trump and have everything to do with your broken culture.

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        6 days ago

        you wield that brush of blame much too wildly. it’s still a minority who support that shit. his “victory” was engineered by a well organized group of neo-nazis spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation and aided by vote rigging.