Arch is different…

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
    6·
    1 month ago

    Really? It happens this often?

    In 26 years, I’ve seen this happen in two occasions with enterprise Linux. One of them was my own damned fault for using a marginal config. The other was an update that added a new dependency in the code but not the package.

    That’s it. Twice.

  • BetterDev@programming.dev
    5·
    1 month ago

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    Yours has just begun.

    I warn you, this is not the easy path.

    But I urge you to heed the call.

    For though there will be trials and tribulations,

    soon, my friend, you will own new socks.

      • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
        2·
        1 month ago

        Used to get it like every other update on arch. For it once or twice on Manjaro and once on catchyos.

        But in also on an nvidia card. Can’t afford to switch these days lol

        • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          1 month ago

          Weird. I wonder what makes the difference because I’ve got an RTX 4060 in my main machine and a laptop with an AMD card and haven’t had an issue. Idk I’ve also got the mesa driver’s installed as a fallback though and headers.

          I guess I also don’t use a typical DE so that could have something to do with it. Dwm seems to basically always just work as long as the system posts.

          • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
            1·
            1 month ago

            De souls have nothing to do with it. Circa 2015 I’d literally drop to a shell on boot. I think I had a 500 series nvidia card back then. Is have to use the cli with lynx or something to download the driver and install it lol.

    • tumbling4986@lemmy.caOP
      64·
      1 month ago

      I don’t mean it happened right now. I mean it often happens. Probably when i tweak too much or more installs from AUR.

  • swooper@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 month ago

    I just had my first one. Update shows a change in the template for official mirrors. Updated asks me if i want to view, merge or cancel. I view, looks okay? Merge. No more updates, corrupted. Heeeeetyyyyhh?

    • tumbling4986@lemmy.caOP
      2·
      1 month ago

      When I type “yes” for view pkgbuild, it always shows failed to retrieve message. Then without asking for a retry, it asks to continue with installation!

  • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world
    2·
    1 month ago

    Yeah i had this happen with devices that originally came with Windows sometimes, mainly laptops. It must be a combo of BIOS, firmware and hardware that increases the chances of update instability. Its just not feasible for every distro to have the same kind of hardware config testing support that Microsoft has for Windows.

    Windows spying on you is not just for marketing, they grab your current environment and sanitize the result so they can get a nice list of hardware and application configurations for when they need to test.

  • hogmomma@lemmy.world
    21·
    1 month ago

    I don’t (and will never) use Arch, but I’ve heard nothing but how user-unfriendly it is. I don’t look for posts about Arch; they just seem to find me – like this one. I don’t hear anything about other distros. Why do people use Arch? Does it offer some outlandish advantage that other distros don’t? Is it for bragging rights? Seriously? I haven’t heard a single good thing about it.

    • tumbling4986@lemmy.caOP
      3·
      1 month ago

      Arch is mainly for people who prefer instant updates on every software. Like developers, some hardcore gamers want to tweak their system too deep and have too much time to fix if it breaks.

      Snapshots are a big relief, as they allow you to directly boot into the previous working version. But if the bootloader itself failed, you might need a live USB to fix it.

      Arch is not bad or unfriendly at all. It allows users to deeply customize their system how they want it, and that’s what causes an unstable system at the end. Also, the use of too many AUR softwares at the system level is another reason. It is not official. So by using AUR heavily, we can’t guarantee it will work with other system software.

      If you use Arch with snapshots and only install a minimal amount of AUR system-level software, then it’s completely fine for daily use.

      Other serious struggles.

      • Very new releases bring a lot of bugs. Recently I saw my screen was flashing when I opened settings. Also, crashes can occur constantly. You have to report it to get an immediate fix from developers.

      • Snapshots can take a fair amount of your storage. But you can control it in Snap.

      • AUR packages are not tested for their authenticity or security at all.

      • A breakage or failure to boot can terrify newbies. Unlike Fedora or Debian, there are no built-in recovery tools out of the box. Everything is the user’s responsibility.

      Arch is all about user freedom. All those crashes and failures are not too hard to fix, but you have to spend much time on them. If you have pre-cations like a live USB and snapshots, then there is nothing to worry about at all.

      Unlike Windows, Linux demands users know it more and read long wiki pages, which is good in a sense.

      Many people in the Linux community want their system built from scratch. So Arch stands in between, distributions like VoidLinux and Gentoo.

    • eletes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      1 month ago

      I think it’s like driving a manual transmission car in the US. You have more control and are more in tune with your car, but when you’re stuck in bumper to bumper stop and go traffic it sucks ass. Similarly some people make it their identity and that’s where the memes come from.