Four years after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the Russian economy is showing clear signs of structural exhaustion. The contours of a genuine economic endgame are coming into view for Russia. This is the finding of a new Kiel Report published by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy and the Stockholm Institute of Transition Economics.
    • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
      162·
      4 months ago

      WTF? Sanctions have absolutely been part of reaching the point we’re at now.
      Other comments by you have been misguided, but this is way way out there.

    • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
      92·
      4 months ago

      Ursula von der Leyen, 2022

      Are you somehow implying that she was wrong?

      What she said would happen is exactly what happened.

        • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
          61·
          4 months ago

          What is the point of the sanctions?

          Exactly what Von der Leyen said?

          Weaken Russia’s economy.

          That means less money for foreign supplies, and machinery, means fewer missiles, fewer shells, fewer tanks.

          The war hasn’t ended, has it?

          No, but maybe ask Ukrainians if they’d rather there be no sanctions and more missiles in their cities.

          But you know all that, you’re just arguing in bad faith.

            • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
              31·
              4 months ago

              And why would they want to weaken the economy? Come on you can do better than that. Use your other brain cell.

              it’s literally in my comment above, read.

              And who said they shouldn’t do sanctions? Please quote me on that.

              Why the fuck should I quote you on that? I never said you said that.

              What you did do is imply that it didn’t impact Russia’s war making capabilities, and I told you that you can go ask Ukrainians about that.

              And you have the nerve to tell me I’m the one arguing in bad faith? F off

              yes you are.

              “Just asking questions” that you know the answers to. You fuck off

                • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
                  31·
                  4 months ago

                  So you think that is supposed to be the end goal? Maybe you can think juuust 1 step further.

                  Again “just asking questions”. If you want to make a point. Fucking make it. Fuck off with this “just asking questions” bullshit.

                  And yes, weakening Russia’s war making capabilities is the fucking end goal.

                  Europe was perfectly happy with Russia having a strong economy to buy European goods and sell them cheap gas. There is no other end goal.

                  I said they’re ramping up ballistic missile attacks, which they are. I said nothing about the front, drone attacks or whatever. The point was that they still have plenty of production capabilities to ramp these up despite all these sanctions and years of costly war.

                  Yeah, completely ignoring the fact that they’d be able to produce much more without the sanctions. Also why are cruise missile attacks dropping? Maybe because they can’t keep up production because of sanctions? funny that.

                  And supposedly having hit their limit

                  According to whom?

                  The only quote you made was Von der Leyen, who didn’t fucking say that, did she?

                  which is what we’ve been hearing for years now

                  No we haven’t.

                  So yeah, I don’t believe the boy who cried wolf this time.

                  If you hear “wolf” when people say something else, that’s on you.

                  When the f did I say I was “just asking questions No, I made a statement.

                  A comment with nothing but questions you know the answer to but imply the answer is something else. That is exactly the definition of “just asking questions”. And you do it in other places as well.

                  What is the point of the sanctions?

                  The war hasn’t ended, has it?

                  Not a statement, is it?

    • andz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      4 months ago

      It’s an enormous country with an abundance of natural resources. It was always going to take a fair amount of time before they got desperate. Now they are, and it’s not going well, hence the endless missile and drone barrage.

      They lost their momentum on the ground a while back, and now they’re reduced to holding what they can and hope they can break the Ukrainian morale with civilian casualties. There’s nothing new there. They’re using the same tactics they used in Chechnya all over again. The only difference is the weaponry used.

        • andz@lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          4 months ago

          I live about an hour from the Russian border. I know people on the other side. I can read Russian well enough to follow their news since we’re probably fairly high up on the list of targets if this goes really wrong. Not that that would end well for Russia, but they’re not exactly behaving rationally atm.

          I know what it really looks like inside Russia. Can you claim the same, or do you just like to spread misinformation?

            • andz@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              4 months ago

              You are, huh? Where?

              You didn’t answer my question.

                • andz@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  21·
                  4 months ago

                  In that case, do you want to disclose where you’re getting your information from?

                  I’m asking because it really does look like you’re simply trying to push your opinions as fact.

                  Do you understand Russian? Can you read it? Do you know anyone inside Russia?

                  Edit; For the record, I’ve lost three good friends in Ukraine so far, and a fourth is missing, so I assume she’s gone as well. Do you have any idea what’s really going on in this war?