The largest Presbyterian denomination in the United States has voted overwhelmingly to recognize Israel’s war in Gaza as a genocide and to divest from Palantir Technologies and General Electric Aerospace over their ties to Israel’s military and intelligence services. A measure approved Tuesday by the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) also calls on church members to boycott Israeli products and to lobby Congress for an arms embargo against Israel. This is the Rev. Dr. Fahed Abu Akel, a Palestinian American and former moderator of the Presbyterian Church who survived the 1948 “Nakba,” or mass displacement of Palestinians during Israel’s founding. Rev. Fahed Abu Akel: “We have been silent on the destruction of most of the schools, universities, hospitals, mosques and churches — you know, one church was Orthodox, Catholic and also Baptist — all of which were done with our American-made weapons and dollars. Siblings in Christ, in the name of the living Christ, we cannot be silent on this matter any longer.”
  • teyrnon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    Fuck yeah. I can’t remember what the presbetarians are about specifically. But we often forget that near half of christians are not pieces of shit, even as they may not understand the world completely.

    The Evangelicals and Calvinists are giving every protestant a bad name. What with the whole cheering on drowning the world in lakes of blood and fire talk.

    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 minutes ago

      Presbyterian are rich baptist generally. Pretty sure they’re Calvinists and evangelical too. They are one of the older churches in America.

      Landed Gentry very rooted in the establishment. Is my take. I don’t know if there’s a geographic element or not.

    • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.caEnglish
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      58 minutes ago

      The evangelicals are fucking nutjobs that blindly believe a <200 year old reinterpretation by a guy who was essentially a grifter. There’s been a massive evangelical push recently where they’re proselytizing their faith.

      • teyrnon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        19 minutes ago

        Who is this 200 year old grifter? I am unfamiliar. I do remember a douchebag that championed the end of o the world and gave a date, and it passed, and he made another date, which passed, but the faithful never abandoned his bullshit.

        I think that was in the 19th century though. I know in the 1830’s, then in the 1850’s or so, there was an explosion of these guys, the so called great awakenings.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    59 minutes ago

    Don’t be deceived, this church is a “face” church, and provides a mask of sensibility and veneer of respectability for the Christian faith.

    In reality, they’re fleecing their parishioners just like every other, and making a bloody fortune on it. They should at least be forced to pay taxes like the rest of us.

    If you want to see their true face, look at what they are doing in Uganda, for just one example.

  • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 hours ago

    Wow, an American church standing up for what’s right instead of what’s Republican?!

    I did not have that on my bingo card for this century. Well done them.

    • Nautalax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      PCUSA and other mainline Protestant churches (ex. United Methodists, Evangelical Lutherans, Episcopalians, United Church of Christ etc.) are fairly resistlib coded and have protested or rebuked Trump and his policies many many times through his presidencies. It comes at a cost because they’ve been hemorrhaging conservative leaning people offended by their positions on immigration abortion social justice etc. to conservative alternatives (ex. PCA rather than PCUSA) or to new and growing churches in the “Evangelical” movement, and don’t get replaced because people more on the left are more likely leave the faith entirely than to go to a left-leaning church. But they still do protests and whatnot anyway, you just don’t hear much of them because their share of the population is much lower and less loud than the very vocal Evangelical section.

        • Nautalax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 hour ago

          As an example is what I intended, as there are other right-leaning Presbyterian alternatives than PCA such as Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Bible Presbyterian Church and so on so forth so I didn’t want to spell out PCA as the only one.

    • Danquebec@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      There’s a lot of denominations under the “Presbyterian” name. Some of them are typical conservatives, but others are progressive, marrying gay couples, ordaining women and openly gay pastors.