I’m a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he’s a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don’t want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?

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    Behind the Bastards and Some More News have covered him albeit tangentially. Knowledge Fight has covered when Alex Jones has been on Rogan and it really illustrates how dangerously unprepared he is to deal with people like Alex

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      I agree with many of the other commenters that OP debating their husband might not be the best idea.

      But if that’s what they want, “Decoding the gurus” did at least one Rogan specific episode, and I think they do a better job covering and dismantling Rogan’s rhetorical approach than the podcasts above.

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      I dont think anyone can be prepared enough to deal with someone like Alex Jones.

      The guy is literally a Warhammer 40k space marine in real life. Well, not physically, but he thinks and talks like one.

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        You should check out Knowledge Fight. They are the experts. When the Times wants to cover him they call them.

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          The legal team for one of the Sandy Hook parent’s had one of the hosts testify as an expert witness on Alex Jones.

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            Not true. Dan acted as a probono advisor to plaintiff’s council in one of the Texas cases. He never testified. He did sit in on a deposition and suggest a few questions and lines of questioning

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      I’m listened to Jones on the Joe Rogan show when he was on with Eddie Bravo. It ended up with them getting wasted and spouting some really off the wall shit. Bravo was deep into chem trails. Jones confidently proclaimed that “interdimensional child molesters” were the biggest threat to humanity. If they were trying to get people to believe in that stuff they were doing a terrible job of it. Unless you’re already primed to think that way, it was obvious they weren’t thinking rationally.

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    Sorta the problem with the joe Rogan podcast is that Joe doesn’t have an agenda, but every guest he has on does. Some folks think that platforming scumbags and allowing them to say awful things isn’t cool, and therefore refuse to go on the show, which means fewer same people and more insane. This then repeats until only insane guests are in the show.

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      He does have an agenda now, though it’s not a political one. It’s the chasing of those strokes to his ego that his alt-right audience gives him every time he says something they like.

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        I mean that’s fair. It may not even be ego, might be money. But the point stands either way.

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          wouldnt be the first time hard right wingers were found out to be only in it for the money. tucker carlson’s leaked texts and emails come to mind. or all of ann culters college law papers that were pretty moderate. grift the rubes, never fails.

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      he definitely puts his own agenda into his show. like, with COVID, he only invited guests with one opinion. he picked the anecdotes and every part of the show that wasn’t pure interview. he very very clearly and strongly wanted to push that vaccines are bad and COVID is overblown. that was not a guest doing that.

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    I don’t know your relationship but you might want to reflect on your desire to debate your husband. This seems like a recipe for disaster. If you’re concerned he might be sliding into a bad rabbit hole maybe you could try exposing him to some contrary view points, that way he doesn’t feel like his loved one is attacking his beliefs.

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    Consider joining a Joe Rogan community or similar. As a lurker, you can learn a lot about whats going on just by listening to how other people react.

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    As a man who works with a bunch of guys that listen to him, nothing worth listening to.

    That being said, I’m not married to the guys and work and your going to have way more to deal with in his viewership than I do.

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    One good way to get an understanding is to watch the summary of Joe Rogan that Johnny Harris, a YouTube journalist did.

    While it won’t give you a summary of each episode that Joe Rogan does it will give you an unbiased look at what Joe Rogan’s program is all about

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    You can also read into some of the very easily disprovable professional morons that appear on show. Jordan Peterson is a great example because he’s obviously wrong in a very well researched area.

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      When it comes to psychology, I think Peterson has a lot of valuable insights.

      When it comes to anything else I just wish he would shut his mouth.

      That combination of feelings really sums up a lot of Joe’s guests.

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    JR lost touch with reality a few years ago. Hosts nonsense guests on his show who spread BS. To debate him, you simply require a brain and any simple reasoning skills.

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      The clips posted on PowerfulJRE on YouTube are a pretty good summary of each episode.

      The last four were…MMA contracts, Mexican Alien skeletons look fake, Bullet pushing out of his guests arm from bad urban doctors, kickbacks for non generic prescriptions to doctors/clinics.

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    Watch it with him and discuss the video afterwards. No matter how many people sit in front of a screen, it counts as one view.

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    He’s big enough that a lot of people tend to make videos explaining what he is wrong about and how. Searching YT for “Joe Rogan is wrong” or similar and picking some large looking channels from the list tends to give useful results.

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    You can just watch a little bit of him, it wont hurt you that much to give him viewership and will help you understand what your husband is watching better. You can also find some video clips or compilations on YouTube.

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    Hey, pure coincidence , Johnny Harris from youtube recently put out an informative video on Joe a month ago:
    https://youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?si=CPwiMtAEdhaWA3Jj

    His video is nuanced and informative, but I cannot say it is unbiased and it leaves with a very centrist conclusion, but this might be the best for someone unfamiliar with Joe.

    If I may add my own take on him, his show should be considered purely entertainment, and any semblance to actual discourse or debate is purely coincidental and done for entertainment. At best, it should encourage people to start forming their own ideas and opinions (without actually providing reliable resources where to start proper, sadly), and at worst it validates the unfounded opinions and hypotheses of those who believe their internet look-up and echo chamber chatter is equally reputable as peer-reviewed, documented, proper research.

    And lastly to alleviate any concerns you have, people who watch Joe simply yearn to be more knowledgeable, even if his show isnt a good chanel for it. Your partner may be able to understand your concerns with a good discussion and communication, so I wish you the best in talking to them and a prosperous outcome. Cheers!

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    It’s impossible to say. What does he say regarding what? And what do you consider is worth debating over. It’s usually not Joe’s opinions per se but the guests.

    His podcast literally covers everything you can think of. Indigenous people, hunting, technology, different diets, archeology, random chatting with comics, or otherwise interesting people (according to him).

    Usually the guests are experts in some field and tell their opinions on whatever matter they have a degree in or they just talk random nonsense to make dialog that some might find interesting.

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      Usually the guests are experts

      No they’re not. Usually they’re two-bit grifters spouting nonsense they obviously know nothing about, in order to sell some BS. Like how spam emails use bad grammar on purpose to select for the gullible.