• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Good. Those clowns will trash the index funds that so many depend on for retirement funding if they tank. And AI certainly will, and SpaceX is dependent on the whims of a drug addicted wingnut.

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        I think it will massively correct, like the dotcom bubble for websites. LLMs are a useful utility, but not something that’s going to make economics irrelevant (like people thought about the internet).

        Why? LLMs are tools, text models, not AGI magic lamps, and a couple of con artists are trying to convince the world otherwise. That’s an oversimplification, but the jist of it.

        And I’m no LLM skeptic. I’ve been playing with ML as a hobby for a decade, with local LLMs before ChatGPT was even available, but the market attitude towards all this is absolutely bonkers. It’s worse than crypto.

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          I appreciate your mature and common sense reply. This place is nuts! 🤪 😅

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        11 hours ago

        AI will definitely stay around, but the current AI hype is a market bubbles waiting to pop, similar to how the dot com bubble burst and we still have the internet.

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          10 hours ago

          Many people here say “the AI bubble will pop”, but they never explain why they think so. That’s my question.

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            You are not interested in the actual answer, troll. You act in bad faith and only seek to suck energy and goodwill from decent people that might think you genuinely want to understand something.

            The truth is you either do know and you’re playing dumb, or you lack the basic capacity/attention span/empathy to understand and you’re just blindly defending a “team” you think you belong to. Wake up, you wannabe cybertruck driver… you’re not getting an invite to the yacht, the bunker or the child molestation island.

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              Well if anyone knows anything, it’s you, right? I mean, you don’t have to explain anything either! Wow, imagine a world where people could actually do that! Thanks for the conversation though. The world is now better off.

              By the way, you have a problem: you aren’t allowing for a real question. That fits into something we’ve been hearing about lately, but past attempts to silence me have also failed. Releasing your built-up anger against random me is a waste of your time.

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                Megopie gave you a real answer with details hours ago, but you haven’t meaningfully replied to it. Are you sure you’re actually looking for an answer? Or are you looking to feel like you’re correct and that these people don’t know what they’re talking about?

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                  You go around asking people to reply to other people? I guess you got entertained so I’ll take it as a compliment.

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                5 hours ago

                “…but past attempts to silence me have also failed.”

                Your comment would look like this as a person.

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        from the investment perspective, they’ve been losing a lot of money, and they still don’t have a way to make it back
        from the technical perspective, llms probably already reached their peak, and they are still far from reliable in many use cases
        also a disaster for the environment and the culture, the growing sentiment is: fuck all this

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          If AI uses fossil fuels, it’s a disaster for the environment, but it doesn’t have to use fossil fuels. They’ve been spending more then revenue, but revenue is growing, this is normal for new techs. Reliability depends on expectations. My point here is that from what I see, AI will keep growing, but hopefully slowly enough so people can keep up. I mean, I wouldn’t rely on expecting a crash.

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        If you look at the SpaceX valuation documents, specifically, they’re relying on orbital data centers, Dyson spheres, and other scifi bullshit to account for a multi-trillion dollar market cap.

        Add in that the terms of the IPO afford Musk and his insider friends to dump shares as early as 70 days after launch day.

        It isn’t that the companies are bad on their face nearly so much as they’re rigged to implode from within.

        Alphaville, at the Financial Times, has been covering these IPOs extensively. Musk’s is arguably the worst, but OpenAI is running a tight second. And Claude is still largely a cash negative endeavor.

        They aren’t able to justify their prices.

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          I never clicked on a link without any title or explanation. Not starting with that one. That’s like using AI to talking to us instead of bothering yourself.

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    For those that didn’t see the article from yesterday, the relevant rule that they refused to waive was the one that said a company must be profitable.

    lol

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      Lololololol the president of my company went full AI shithead recently and he posted how it was a big deal that they were going public and he was talking about how he see it as a great investment to purchase shares and I asked how it was a great investment to get shares of a company severely in the red and my comment got deleted in a few minutes

      Edit: we also got claude code for everyone in the company and they are monitoring token use (as in we need to use a lot) and I asked if they were concerned that the token price would rise if the board of directors of anthropic suddenly wanted to make a profit and that comment also got deleted (this was in a virtual townhall so we can ask stuff, usually they just ignore the ones they don’t want to answer but they were actually deleting them this time)

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        My last company they didn’t delete messages. That would be to obvious.

        “I am sorry we didn’t get around to answering all the questions live. We will respond to the remaining by email”

        No more questions were answered.

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    I didn’t know that the SNP500 had such rules, but I’m so happy they didn’t cave.

    I hope people sue the indexes for changing the rules. Im not sure its possible but it really makes an index meaningless if its not consistent.

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    The only thing I’m gonna try investing in from this AI shitshow is China’s CXMT RAM since they have a good chance of shanking both Nvidia and the RAM thug monopoly lol.

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    I have no idea what S&P 500 is, I assume it’s a stock market index for Fortune 500 companies? Anyway, for the sake of humour and laziness I’m just gonna pretend it stands for Salt & Pepper 500 and is a knock-off of Indy 500.

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      S&P 500 (Standard and Poor’s 500) is a stock market index tracking the stock performance of 500 leading companies listed on stock exchanges in the United States. It is one of the most commonly followed equity indices and includes approximately 80% of the total market capitalization of U.S. public companies, with an aggregate market cap of more than $61.1 trillion as of December 31, 2025.

      Wikipedia

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      Not sure who the bags of douche downvoting this are, but good on you for asking questions and learning new things. Glad to see people in the thread are engaging with you positively in response.

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      When the race starts at the Salt & Pepper 500, they blast “What’s New Pussycat” and leave it on repeat until a winner is crowned.