Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely
India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.
Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.
And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.
It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.
So pathetic from India - seeking to punish Canada for the fact that the Indian government murdered a Canadian in Canada, and Canada had the temerity to call them out for it.
What an absurd victim complex Modi has.
Typical conservative snowflake. How dare you say anything about me? Throwing people in prison for criticism is commonplace in India.
Unfortunately many of the Sikh people are being subject to genocide and not just locked up.
It’s sadly not uncommon among Brahmins. “How can these people we literally enslaved for millennia DARE want to convert to a different religion? Why aren’t they more grateful?”
Astonishing insight into the thought process of this poster. I’ve learnt a lot.
Look at your name and ask yourself if anyone in your life takes you seriously. Go play with play dough
Way to make everybody believe your government did actually murder somebody in Canada, Modi.
I don’t think anybody’s translated the expression “they doth protest too much” into Hindi.
"Canada and its growing reputation as a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organised crime. And I think that’s a country that needs to worry about its international reputation”
Never thought I’d read a statement like that from someone who was serious.
Indian with it’s assassins and cult government…
The Modi govt has surpassed its own stupidity . They’ve officially labeled Canada an international terrorist sanctuary — “a safe haven for terrorists, for extremists, and for organized crime,” in the words of the Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson. I’ve just posted on this zine
Weird move when Canada represents India’s seventh largest diaspora population, and the number of Indians who became permanent residents in Canada increased 260 per cent from 2013 to 2022.
I suspect that’s why this is happening. India - like China and Russia - may view its diaspora as an indirect projection of its own power.
It’s not the same for Indians as it is for China. Indians tend to integrate well with western culture and I haven’t seen them bring their politics with them.
In the tech sector you can run into caste-ism (is that the correct word?), where Indians who are “lower” caste can be looked over when applying to jobs if the one going through resumes or making hiring decisions is Indian themselves and a “higher” or at least “different” caste, and can identify at a glance what caste the applicant is by their surname.
It’s apparently popping up enough that it’s on the radar as a discrimination problem in California, which has a big tech sector and I suppose a large enough population in some areas of Indian immigrants for this to start being a problem.
It surprised me at first that anyone was concerned about it–but then I realized…yeah, you kinda want to nip that one in the bud. Given all the existing classism/racism in the US, we hardly need a new one to throw into the mix. And it’s really dumb/disappointing to me that someone might come here from India hoping to start a new life and obviously have to deal with racism already because that never won’t NOT be a thing–only to ALSO run face first into caste-ism from fellow immigrants who drag that crap over with them. What a crappy catch-22, you know? So it seems to me that it’s good that some folk have awareness that it’s a thing to watch out for.
That’s something I haven’t considered.
How? You think Indians move to other countries to make them more like India? Sure as hell isn’t the case with the ones I know.
I said India not Indians
eh not so sure. China has explicitly tried very hard to portray the west as racist and crime ridden to ensure that their best and brightest who go to foreign schools come home. They then started setting up secret policing in Canada and the US when those efforts didn’t work well.
India has been doing the same, trying to claw back their own and limit the influence of their citizens abroad. Especially cuz those citizens are often educated and wealthy. Saw something in the US about how Indians are, overall, the wealthiest group since there are relatively few of them compared to other minorities, and they’re overwhelmingly in STEM or other lucrative fields.
So, Modi is a fascist. India has egg on their face.
Canada, now you lol
That’s what India wants…
They want to stop the brain drain their country is experiencing. If they outright forbid their citizens from emigrating, then they’re obviously the bad guys.
If they can make other countries stop Indians from immigrating, the. It Stokes the “us against the world” sentiment that far authoritarian goverments need to stay in power.
The absolute worst thing any country can do to India, is open up for refugees from there. People would be throwing out their Indian citizenship left and right
Canada is hurting right now by taking in so many immigrants, primarily from India. Many companies are using it to suppress wages. Its causing huge strain on housing were kids today will not own a home without assistance from a family member. Its baffling the amount of immigrants Canada is bringing in.
lol
We need immigrants because there is not enough people to fill jobs.
It’s not just jobs, Canada is extremely underpopulated for its size. There’s literally more people in the state of California than all of Canada.
Canada has a higher population than California.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005-eng.htm
The majority of Canada isn’t populated due to extreme climate and miminal arable lands.
There’s people living in the artics and tundras of Canada. As far as arable land, you actually think the world’s second largest country by mass isn’t arable?
As far as population you are right though, their population did just recently surpass California.
Roughly 5% of Canada is arable.
https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/arable-land-percent-of-land-area-wb-data.html
Roughly 150,000 people live in the artic and tundra. The majority of them are indigenous. 0.003% of the population of Canada.
Weird since we have a ton of people with student debt and no jobs
Unemployment is at all time lows across Canada. Fuck off.
I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’d love to know why there are so many more homeless people and intersection beggars in my city than I’ve seen in almost 40 years, if that’s true.
This wasn’t meant to be related to the post we are commenting on, just a casual observation/question.
Edit: I ask a question and get downvotes. You people are fucking hopeless.
Unemployment and homelessness are not related.
The majority of Canada’s homeless population also work. The majority of Canada’s homeless population only spends a few months homeless.
The last 40 years you say?
(this is the US but we’re heavily influenced by them. I doubt ours is any different)
Canada is hurting right now by taking in so many immigrants, primarily from India.
Canada, without immigration, has a replacement of 1.4. This means that for every 2 Canadian adults only 1.4 are produced. This is a NEGATIVE replacement rate. A rate of 2.1 is consider minimum viable.
Its baffling the amount of immigrants Canada is bringing in.
It really isn’t.
Without immigrants Canada would eventually cease to have a population and disappear as a nation.
India seems to be one of their biggest sources of immigrants. Looks like they hoover up tech workers.
Likely works in Canada’s favour to not do the same.
India is the world’s biggest source of immigrants.
what is the difference between expats and immigrants?
Not sure if this is a serious question or not.
There is no difference between an expat and an immigrant. It’s a term white people like to use to avoid calling themselves immigrants, because in their mind that’s a term reserved for brown people…
Edit: I am a white btw
Expats are what white people call themselves because they think “immigrants” sounds low class. There is no difference. You mostly see it from American and Western Europeans when they move abroad.
Expats move to where cost of living is cheaper so they can retire early.
Immigrants move to where it’s higher in search of jobs.
People argue it’s the same thing so they should be called the same thing, but if it’s for two different reasons, it makes sense there’s two different words for it.
There’s no difference. Both are moving elsewhere (immigrating) to increase their quality of life.
If you strip the context to its most basic form then yeah they’re both moving somewhere to nebulously increase their quality of life. Much like elevators and stairs are the same thing because they’re infrastructure that allows you to reach floors in a building that aren’t ground level.
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An expat is a person who resides abroad for work for a fixed period and intents to move back home once their contract has ended. However the term expats is used by high educated immigrants who don’t want to be called immigrants especially white people.
Immigrants intend to become citizens of their new country. Expats work there under temporary residence conditions and return home or to their next posting when done.
Green cards (permanent resident card) in the US are processed in queues. The queues are based on your country of birth. Last I checked Chinas queue time is around 5 years whereas Indias is around 10 years.
I’ve followed the headlines on this but I just don’t get it.
India is pissed they were called out? They didn’t consider a cranky Canadian outcome before hand? Or is Canada flinging wild accusations that are unjustified with the information at hand?
These diplomats need to chillax and go back to being diplomatic before legitimate Canadian expats in India and legitimate Indian expats in Canada start to feel the brunt of this.
There is strong evidence that hasn’t been released but leaked sources claim one of the two killers(captured) have ties to Indian Intelligence the other being an Indian diplomat(uncaptured). This means it’s a direct attack on a Canadian on Canadian soil by a foreign agent.
India is pissed because Canada harbored an alleged terrorist. Even though the terrorist in question was freed by the Indian government and was not wanted by Interpol.
The Indian government is currently genociding its Sikh population and calls anyone outspoken about these actions as terrorist.
This action of closing immigration from Canada is to get an equal reaction. India want to stop all of their skilled and intelligent people from leaving to Canada.
The Indian government is currently genociding its Sikh population
Uhhhhhh what?
Rest of your comment is fine but there’s no need for falsehoods like these.
They are arresting, beating and killing sikh separatists and anyone that speaks ill of the government.
That’s called stifling dissent, or repressing civil liberties.
Not a genocide. Words have meanings.
Is India such a popular destination for Canadians ? I mean who is hurt more in this “he`s done it, so i pay back” game?
Something like 7% of Canada’s population is South Asian. I don’t know what percentage of that has Canadian citizenship and is specifically from India, but I’d guess there are a fair number of people who won’t be able to visit family now. It’s a shitty way to retaliate, but not unsurprising coming from Modi.
Well those who come from India they don’t need visa and second generation of original immigrants might not have such a tight relations on average as they have lived whole life in Canada. Then how many Canadians work in India in comparison to how many Indians work in Canada. I’m just guessing here but somehow I think Indians are hurting their own people. If it’s about tourism , then again who needs tourism more if we count only tourists from these two countries visiting each other.
Interesting. I do passport applications (granted, in the US, so not completely the same), but I see a fair amount of 2nd gen Indians who are going to India. Lots of people going for weddings or young adults visiting grandparents or taking their own babies to meet the extended family. Regardless, it’s super petty.
they hurt their own people in sense not Canadians in general. (Graparents won’t see their grandchildren etc)
it ain’t the white ones who are going, it’s the 2nd generation (or later) Indians in Canada who may have issues. “with us or against us, pick a side, otherwise you’re not going to visit Grandma”
Wow damn if we don’t somehow rescue the USA in our elections in 2024 these dictator countries have their eyes on taking over. Kinda obvious with the whole BRICS thing.
Aww india is hurt and throwing a tantrum like a 5 yr old :D
Now how are Canadians going to get executed
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How does it make any sense?
“We murder a person in your country, but you mad?! >:( no visa for you!!!”
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The thing with indians is they are probably being brain washed by russia.
It’s over the top outrage to somehow try to deflect from that they probably did assassinate someone in Canada.
It’s so obvious they’re trying to sway and pressure Canada to drop this and not investigate it.
