Everything you need to know about the ‘one million march for children’ to stop the ‘indoctrination of children in public schools’

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      If I had to guess, I’d say cryptofascist. He demands tolerance towards bigots and only bigots.

    • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Nice false dichotomy.

      I am someone that believes that for a democracy or republic to function that sometimes we have to sit down with people that we rather punch than talk to and find the few things we both agree on.

      It is bad enough to marginalize small groups, but any political view that is advocating marginalizing half of society is the real enemy and should be fought against by all free people.

      • spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works
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        2 years ago

        Idgaf what you think. You’re of the opinion that people who can’t even agree that certain members of our society are human and deserve basic rights should be sat down with and talked to?

        I have no time for their nonsense and no time for yours.

        Look up the tolerance paradox and think hard about that.

        • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I have no time for their nonsense and no time for yours.

          One person’s nonsense is another person’s importance.

          None of these people on either side are going to just magically disappear because the other side doesn’t like them.

          If you want them to respect you enough to hear what you’re saying (I’m assuming when you comment you actually want people to read it and consider what you’re saying) you should do the same in reverse, even if you disagree with what they’re saying.

          Ignorance and Hate only leads to War and Death.

        • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          There is a far cry between tolerance without limit and hating anyone that doesn’t agree with you. I can give you a hint as to which side you have been arguing for in case you got confused along the way.

            • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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              2 years ago

              Stop talking to me.

              Cute. You involved yourself in my dialogue, not the other way around. You could have stopped responding at any point.

              It is hard being presented with logical reason that disagrees with our emotional beliefs. Look up cognitive dissonance. It might help you reconcile the pain.

              • dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world
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                2 years ago

                No, it’s hard to have a conversation with someone who refuses to respond to what they are commenting to and instead responding to arguments spacecowboy didn’t make. Funny that.

                • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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                  2 years ago

                  SC lead with a false dichotomy and then when I gave them a genuine opinion anyways responded with “idgaf what you think”. At which point did you think I should have spent more time giving in-depth answers?

                  I don’t mind answering a question if you have one and are engaging in good faith. If however you lead with bad faith arguments, then twist and dismiss my opinions, I will have to apologize in advance because in that case I won’t spend much time on the responses either.

                  Was there something they asked that you wanted to know the answer to?

      • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        to and find the few things we both agree on.

        And when their stance is ‘trans people shouldn’t have rights’ what’s the middle ground there exactly?

        • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          And when their stance is ‘trans people shouldn’t have rights’ what’s the middle ground there exactly?

          It should be obvious that I was not advocating for a middle ground between two disparate stances on a single issue. I was advocating for choosing issues that we already mostly agree on.

          In general, in a democracy, laws should not be created relating to issues that there is little to no agreement on. Trans rights is obviously one of the issues where there is little agreement amongst the population and laws, particularly national laws, should be avoided until there is a strong consensus among the population.

        • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          And when their stance is ‘trans people shouldn’t have rights’ what’s the middle ground there exactly?

          sit down with people that we rather punch than talk to and find the few things we both agree on.

      • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        I am someone that believes that for a democracy or republic to function that sometimes we have to sit down with people that we rather punch than talk to and find the few things we both agree on.

        Realize you’re getting a lot more downvotes than upvotes, but I just wanted to let you know you’re not alone, in this way of thinking.

        • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I am glad to hear it. Sometimes I wonder what happened to this mindset or if was it an illusion all along.