• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Dealing with this kind of shit was one of the reasons we completely dropped xilinx. Apart from that they were very unhelpful and unfriendly.

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    Read the entire article, despite not having heard about Vivado previously. I wouldn’t be surprised if a certain company ending in soft slop is somehow involved.

    The thing that makes sense to me (purely speculative, no real info to back this) is that Microslop isn’t happy about losing money and the user base, so they are pushing their hardware partners to force users back to the platform.

    Redis did exactly this back in March 2024, dropping its long-standing BSD license for the more restrictive dual licensing model, and the blowback was severe enough that the community forked it into Valkey almost immediately.

    Sounds like this is probably the best approach and outcome for the Vivado community and software. The end of the article recommends either joining in the discussion on AMD’s forums (which only seems to be getting stonewalled) or joining the growing number of people on hacker news.

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      That’s the second-best approach. The best approach is for it to be copyleft instead of permissively-licensed to begin with.

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        53 minutes ago

        I don’t disagree, I meant given the current situation. Obviously copyleft would be preferred and should be encouraged.

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      7 hours ago

      What part is FUD? FTA:

      Starting with the 2026.1 release, AMD is switching to a tiered licensing model. The free Basic tier covers entry-level devices but is restricted to Windows only. Linux support does not show up until the “Core” tier, which costs somewhere between $1,200-$1,800 per year.

      When pushed for a real answer, Anatoli pointed unhappy users toward Vivado 2025.2, suggesting they simply stick with it if they did not want to pay. He did mention that 2025.2 loses official support once Vivado 2026.3 ships, but that detail was buried in a thread reply, leaving users with little more than a dead-end recommendation.

      They’re removing the free product they offered for Linux and are sticking it behind a $100+/mo license, and the alternative option for not paying is using unsupported software and being left with any security problems unless you pay an ongoing license.

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          7 hours ago

          You didn’t link a specific comment, so your reply isn’t worth much. The first ‘substantive’ response I ran across was pretty dumb, effectively saying the Linux app was costing AMD money while offering windows for free and Linux behind a paywall. I didn’t care to keep reading.

          So, again, what part of it is FUD?

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            The part in the OP that is influencing perception by disseminating negative and dubious information about AMD when AMDs actions are actually justified.

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              when AMDs actions are actually justified.

              Yeah, this is the part we’re disagreeing on, because so far I haven’t seen a real justification for why the same app is fine on windows but not Linux and is only accessible on linux through a subscription. What part of Linux specifically costs them money that doesn’t on windows?

              Also, just because you don’t like the info doesn’t make it dubious. And ironically, your defense of them is dubious by providing vague responses and unsupported accusations of spreading FUD.

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                  If anyone had any doubts, you’ve effectively admitted you’re wrong. You can’t even respond to basic questions about the “FUD” anyone is spreading, especially your own.

                  Maybe try to shill in places that don’t know how to ask basic follow up questions, you’ll probably get farther.