A small flaw in Android 16's networking stack let ordinary apps leak data outside the VPN tunnel, exposing real IP addresses
  • Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    92·
    19 days ago

    I went Graphene a while back and can’t be happier with it.

    I’d still love to see a real Linux phone that really works and really has native Signal/etc apps but since buying a pinephone years ago to tinker with it, I’m not holding my breath.

    If anyone here has fears/questions about installing/using it, I can give you basics. NOT an expert, but installation was the easiest thing I could have imagined, took MAYBE 10 minutes literally following their official guide.

    • Lemmayng@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      19 days ago

      Agree. On my fifth anniversary with GrapheneOS and it still kicks ass.

      The Pixel phones on the other hand still leave a lot to be desired as reliable hardware. My 8 Pro is the best of the ones I’ve owned, but not by much considering my Pixel 6 Pro had a shitty Tensor modem, and my Pixel 4 XL had a spicy pillow.

      The sooner GrapheneOS moves to Motorola, the better.

      • Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        122·
        19 days ago

        I don’t have any serious complaints about my 9a REALLY, but I’d prefer something with SD, headphone jack, and I’d REALLY kill for something much smaller. (but no fold, that stuff’s for derpy weirdos)

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        19 days ago

        I went 1 2 4 7 9. The first two where good 4 was shit 7 was even more shit and 9 has been slight better shit.

        But it’s still better then fucking Samsung. Wish there was a good third option on Verizon that didn’t require me to jump through fucking hoops or is just a worse pixel.

    • eli@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      19 days ago

      I’m about to make the switch myself. I have a Pixel tablet and a P9 Pro. I swapped my tablet over just so I can test things out. I want to deGoogle completely. No play store.

      So far I’ve had to make a list of all my apps I have on my phone and go one-by-one seeing if there’s an apk for it somewhere outside of play store, and if not, then if there’s an alternative app, and then website or PWA it is.

      I’ve come to realize I have a lot of unnecessary bullshit on my phone to begin with. Think I’ll make the switch this weekend, just need to find a few more alternatives to specific apps.

    • k0e3@lemmy.caEnglish
      91·
      19 days ago

      This might be a silly question, but do you think it would be a good idea for me to first set up my old android phone with my bank and authenticator apps before I make the switch in case some of them don’t work?

    • akwd169@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      19 days ago

      Does signal not work on grapheneOS?

      Im bound to end up on graphene in the very near future but im trying to prepare myself for the conveniences ill be giving up, I know tap to pay is one, and bank apps proba ly wont work (but online banking in a browser works fine for me)

      Is there anything else like that?

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      19 days ago

      I have company managed apps on my device. Teams, Outlook and Authenticator. Any idea if there might be any friction there with Graphene? It’s really the only thing from holding me back and I can’t really justify experimenting if it’s going to break things

      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        19 days ago

        I have company managed apps on my device. Teams, Outlook and Authenticator.

        That’s your first problem. If your company want to force you to use specific apps on a phone they should just buy you a phone for that

          • possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            3·
            19 days ago

            Oh, they turned that off? Okay, where in the policy does it say that you’re required to use your own device? No stipend no teams. No stipend no outlook. No stipend no authenticator. I’m not giving them a single millimeter.

      • Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        19 days ago

        Never used the stock rom on it, purchased it, turned it on, and immediately flashed it. BUT compared to my last “normal” android? (Smasnug- I’ll never NOT call them that thanks to a certain Aussie on YT) No. Nothing. That said I’m middle aged and never even considered using stuff like contactless payments with a phone, etc. Never saw the appeal of increased risk just to look like a douchebag at the checkout aisle or the drive through. Your mileage may vary if you use things like that, I can’t speak to it.

        Only thing I noticed was for my bank’s app, I had to enable “exploit protection compatibility mode” to make it function like it should.

        • _g_be@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          19 days ago

          I use contactless payments on my pixel, that and banking apps in general keep me from trying it.

          Sounds like it might work fine, that’s encouraging.

          tap to pay isn’t more risky, might be less risky depending on how you use it. My understanding is that it uses a one-time number instead of your card information, not unlike using the chip and pin. I’m no expert tho, don’t quote me on that lol