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    And if Iran and Saudi Arabia get nukes, then Turkey will get nukes. And if Turkey gets nukes, then unless there is an EU army, Greece will want to get nukes.

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      Pretty sure there are NATO nukes sitting in Turkey already… it’s like the whole reason everyone pretends they aren’t a circus run by a toddler pounding the table to print more money as economic policy.

      Ukraine is the only country to every voluntarily disarm their nuclear arsenal. Now invaded by Russia. Turkey gets to wave their dicks around and make demands at the big boy table despite being a complete joke of a country. I honestly can’t blame countries wanting to develope or obtain nuclear weapons anymore…

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          Fun fact: South Africa didn’t give up nukes based on some moral objection. They did it because the apartheid government was disbanding, and they didn’t want people of melanin to have nukes. Racism for the win?

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        Pretty sure there are NATO nukes sitting in Turkey already

        Those are US controlled nukes. And the US doesnt have the best relation with Turkey atm. They are there now, gone tomorrow. Turkey cant rely on american nukes. If other regional powers have nukes, they need to have nukes. And if Turkey has nukes, then Greece needs to have nukes for selfprotection.

        Turkey gets to wave their dicks around and make demands at the big boy table despite being a complete joke of a country.

        They have the 2nd biggest military in NATO, after the US, an immensely important geographical location and they are a regional power(along with Iran and Saudi Arabia).

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      Turkey doesn’t need nukes because it’s part of the strongest defensive alliance in the history of mankind. That’s enough deterrent for anyone who isn’t in that alliance.

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        NATO’s is not going to be part of Turkey’s geopolitical schemes. Nukes are needed in order to be on an even footing with the other regional powers(which will also have nukes). Even if Saudi Arabia/Iran never intend to nuke Turkey, they will be at an advantage.

        Hard power translates to soft power. And if your regional opponents have nukes and you dont have nukes, you will be at a significant soft power disadvantage.

        Btw Turkey is building its first nuclear power plant, with help from Russia. Saudi Arabia also intends to build nuclear power plants soon. Thats the first step to creating a nuclear weapon.

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    Nuclear winter fell way back in the pack, but it’s catching up to Climate Change, AI, and biological weapons as humanity’s self inflicted doom.

    Damn, I was rooting for Skynet.

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      I’d deploy skynet tomorrow if I could. At least there’s a chance we win and there’s few enough people afterwards. Plus it’d be some epic history. Way better than “so they were selfish dumb assholes and made their own planet uninhabitable?” If some other sentient race comes along.

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      i mean, if we suffer a nuclear winter… it would probably solve the AI problem… the (current) climate change problem, and, uh, a lot of the other problems as we no longer care about shit like having TP on the shelves or what color the new car is gonna be.

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      I almost wish for a nuclear winter. On account of patrolling the Mojave so much…

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      “Dear KSA, as a gift we are sending a nuke…”

      “Oh that’s nice, how very kind!”

      “It will arrive in approximately 10 minutes by air…”

      “Wow by airmail too!”

      “…At mach 4”

      “wait…”

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    Pakistan to who got them and then proceeded to shoot themselves in the foot:

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    How about neither of you religo-fascists get one, and if you try, you get glassed?

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      Why are American religo-fascists allowed so many? They only want 1 you big meanie! /s but only a little

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      Nothing on our planet has the enthalpy and matter control required to glass the crust into silicate dioxide crystals. I would know I have the idea.

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    Makes sense if you think about it. Most sensible countries ultimately want to return to the 2015 deals and progress from there.

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      It’s hard to believe that 1950s Sci Fi is still fucking relevant to today’s world. if y’all haven’t ever, go watch The Day the Earth Stood Still (not the remake, the OG black and white from 1952. The remake deserves the George Lucas Holiday Special Treatment.) The movie is a cult classic and is still relevant to today’s world as a criticism of nuclear weapons (if not nuclear energy,) and Mutually Assured Destruction.