• 🌈 vanta rainbow black 🌈@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    okay. controversial opinion time

    this was all extremely dickish troll behavior but i don’t think A PRISON CAMP is necessarily the most rehabilitative experience. punitive justice doesn’t fucking work and nobody deserves to be put through A PRISON LABOR CAMP regardless of how much of an annoyance they were being

    in an ideal world there would mechanisms in place to educate this fuckhead without needlessly traumatizing and brutalizing him. sensitivity training. cultural education. empathy and dignity. true justice that will actually change his behavior

    but prison camp? i bet he’s gonna come outta this twice as much an enormous douchebag

    • IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I agree with your sentiment but when a human being is this antagonistic towards every country he visits then it’s justified. Definitely a slipper slope moment but just look at this:

      Ismael was certain he wouldn’t be imprisoned, saying in a stream: "I know for a fact that I’m not going to go to jail. Not one day in jail. I’m going to laugh my ass off when all these motherf***ers are saying I’m going for 30 years, 20 years, five years, 10 years. I’m not even going to do one day, bro. They’ll give me a fine and say, ‘Don’t come back to Korea.’ You’re the one that’s going to look so dumb when I don’t get any jailtime or anything. Bro, I’m going to laugh like a f**king villain.

      “I did go there. I recognized all the charges. I said I was guilty. I did say all that s**t because it’s going to be a fine. I’m just going to pay it and leave. You can’t go to jail for this s**t. You can’t.”

      It’s so hard to be sympathetic to this piece of trash. Plus it seems like he’s not even doing 3 years. He’s fine.

      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Its almost impossible to have not at least sentenced him to 1 day after something like that if a prison sentence is legitimately on the table.

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      Please… he got 6 months for all the shit he pulled. It was so much more than just dickish trolling.

      He deserved far more. He got off easy. But it serves two purposes. For one, korea got their message across. Don’t come here to fuck around. And second, they don’t want to pay for him being in their prison.

      In an ideal world, people don’t pull this shit to begin with. So we’re already well past an “ideal world scenario”. It’s not this guys first rodeo. These people will never learn unless they face some real, actual consequences.

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      Its not about punishing the guy. It is about sending a message that this will not be tolerated. Also, different cultures are different, culturally.

      • 🌈 vanta rainbow black 🌈@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 days ago

        different cultures are different, culturally.

        i’m pretty sure torture is just as brutal in every culture. something merely being a cultural difference doesn’t immediately make it worthy of keeping around. for example, should we respect japanese culture’s weird obsession with sexualizing underage characters? NO! it being different than what we’re used to doesn’t automatically make it okay

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          Yea, when something that is apart of your culture causes harm to others, it shouldn’t be apart of your culture. Phase it out. Acknowledge it, but phase it out and teach why you phased it out.

          We should strive for kindness and care when it comes to culture both of our own and others.

          Reading more. It doesn’t sound like what type of camp I was thinking. I’m still sure it probably needs updates to ideas and whatnot, but I also don’t think punishments should be totally easy. As well as learning what got him in this hot water, he definitely deserves to harshly punished with what would best fit the crime.

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      2 days ago

      OTOH maybe this will ground him a bit more and he will be a more self-reflective douchebag.

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      He’s a douchebag that’s used to acting as such without consequences (or even with profit). A prison labor camp sounds like exactly the sort of wakeup call this guy needs

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      I don’t know. Maybe a few weeks behind a rock with a whip behind his back might teach him to be mindful of where he is the next time he’s going to act like an idiot