cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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    1 month ago

    Slab phone is solved tech already and this is the time where we can vote for more ethical solutions without really losing anything. The newest fairphone is basically just a standard android flagship.

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      1 month ago

      Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

      SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

      Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

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      1 month ago

      On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.

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        1 month ago

        There will always be limitations unless massive changes occur such as Google open sourcing their Play Services as part of AOSP. MicroG has limited resources to implement compatibility.

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    1 month ago

    I’ve been using a CMF Nothing with /e/OS installed by Murena for a year now and I can say it’s been a breeze.

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    1 month ago

    What is the claim behind “runs Google?” The Fairphone also runs Android doesn’t it? How is it any less Google than a Samsung?

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      1 month ago

      it’s only the open source part? normally, google injects proprietary code into phones, usually through “google play services”? idk I’m just kinda a hobbyist

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        Sure, google play is a standard part of android, but you don’t need to have it, though you do need SOME kind of app installer. Samsung ofc has its own. Kindle Fires used their own and didn’t have Google Play iirc, but you could install it yourself.

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    1 month ago

    If it has a MicroSD slot, 3.5mm jack, a removable battery and costs no more than £300, I’m interested! <3

    I’d rather it were made in Europe too, but I understand we can’t have everything, supply chains being what they are.

    P.S Bonus points if it has an IR blaster, I use the one on my current phone quite a lot, surprisingly enough!

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      1 month ago

      They can’t build them that cheaply. They don’t have the same scaling effects as the big brands, and they make an effort for sustainability which is a huge problem with cheap-ass phones.

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        1 month ago

        Main reasons I stopped buying Fairphones:

        • too big
        • focus on fair-trade (fair enough) but not on free operating systems
        • sustainability: by the time my FP2 partially broke (USB charger port), they were no longer selling spare parts

        Other than that - it’s a great company and a team of good people.

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        1 month ago

        I miss my pixel 4a dearly. Found it in the old phone box the other day and couldn’t believe how little it was.