Tesla advertised a feature of a car that failed to work in the way it was described.
So first off, this was mainly what I was replying about and I should have probably quoted it. The car 100% worked exactly as described. Any claims about how good AP may be, go 100% out the window the moment your foot is on the accelerator and it tells you the car will not brake.
Also I don’t think he’s ever said AP drives safer than a human, it’s humans using autopilot are safer than driving without it. It’s always because you are supervising it that it’s safer than without. It can’t even change lanes or stop for traffic lights, how on earth could that be safer than a human unless it’s with human supervision?
Tesla wiping/causing problems getting the data should probably be it’s own case (edit brought on by the state or sanctioned by the state or whatever is possible) and doesn’t really have to do with the actual merits of this specific case IMO and whether or not they were responsible.
The working outside of highways is really the only valid thing.
Edit: Let me try putting this another way. Cars have airbags. Airbags are advertised safety devices. If you get into an accident and your airbag doesn’t go off and it should have, you’ll probably sue. If your Airbag warning light was on though, and you ignored it, you can fuck right off on any claims around it failing to deploy or the car not working as advertised.
There’s a lot of civic owners form the late 90s and early 2k’s who would have an opinion about faulty airbags. My mother can’t even feel her bottom lip now because of this airbag shit.
….she hit the steering wheel, bit it off, had it stocked back on, but the nerves were severed.
Dang that sucks, I’m sorry to hear that. I’m not saying faulty air bags are okay, they are not. They’ve been the subject of one of (the?) largest saftey recall ever.
This predates that but there was a pattern emerging. Apparently it wasn’t that the airbags failed to fire but that the computer didn’t activate them in the first place.
Then again, my mother is a fucking Karen who lost a legal fight against someone driving a government vehicle off the clock so whatever. Point is, grandpa chose what hospital she went to based on the quality of their parking deck.
So first off, this was mainly what I was replying about and I should have probably quoted it. The car 100% worked exactly as described. Any claims about how good AP may be, go 100% out the window the moment your foot is on the accelerator and it tells you the car will not brake.
Also I don’t think he’s ever said AP drives safer than a human, it’s humans using autopilot are safer than driving without it. It’s always because you are supervising it that it’s safer than without. It can’t even change lanes or stop for traffic lights, how on earth could that be safer than a human unless it’s with human supervision?
Tesla wiping/causing problems getting the data should probably be it’s own case (edit brought on by the state or sanctioned by the state or whatever is possible) and doesn’t really have to do with the actual merits of this specific case IMO and whether or not they were responsible.
The working outside of highways is really the only valid thing.
Edit: Let me try putting this another way. Cars have airbags. Airbags are advertised safety devices. If you get into an accident and your airbag doesn’t go off and it should have, you’ll probably sue. If your Airbag warning light was on though, and you ignored it, you can fuck right off on any claims around it failing to deploy or the car not working as advertised.
There’s a lot of civic owners form the late 90s and early 2k’s who would have an opinion about faulty airbags. My mother can’t even feel her bottom lip now because of this airbag shit.
….she hit the steering wheel, bit it off, had it stocked back on, but the nerves were severed.
Dang that sucks, I’m sorry to hear that. I’m not saying faulty air bags are okay, they are not. They’ve been the subject of one of (the?) largest saftey recall ever.
This predates that but there was a pattern emerging. Apparently it wasn’t that the airbags failed to fire but that the computer didn’t activate them in the first place.
Then again, my mother is a fucking Karen who lost a legal fight against someone driving a government vehicle off the clock so whatever. Point is, grandpa chose what hospital she went to based on the quality of their parking deck.