Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support, I wonder what countries Europeans would/could flee to - and be welcomed by - if there were to be a war engulfing most of Europe?

Any thoughts?

  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support

    They don’t do that at all. That’s a deceitful right-wing talking point meant to create xenophobic reactions.

    People from war torn nations move to non-war torn parts of their own county, or their direct neighbors. Only a tiny fraction go further, and only a fraction of those go all the way to Europe.

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      I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty. I simply wonder where Europeans would flee to, if there were a war that engulfs all of Europe.

      Alas, since you seem to be more interested in other discussions: Saying people don’t flee from war to Europe seems highly deceitful in itself. I just looked at the statistics from Germany (which brought me to my question): By mid-2024, there were roughly 3.5 Million refugees in Germany. Over one million of them were from Ukraine. For the whole of the EU, there appear to be almost 7 million refugees from war-torn areas and a total of 13 million refugees in total (includes internally displaced people), and 1.7 million asylum applicants. Those appear to be official numbers and not right-wing talking points. I suppose in your mind, that means that people don’t flee to Europe?

      https://www.unhcr.org/europe/europe-figures-glance-2023 https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zahl-gefluechtete-deutschland-100.html

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        I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty.

        Aren’t you in luck then, because I did neither. Your reaction is pretty over the top though.

        Also, seeing how Ukraine is already in Europe, it would take a lot of effort for them not to flee to (elsewhere in) Europe.