Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate’s “War Room” group has been uncovered by the BBC.

Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher.

The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims.

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    Mr Tate says the War Room - which costs $8,000 (£6,300) a year to join - is a network of powerful men and those who want to learn from them.

    However, the leaked online chats indicate the War Room teaches members through its so-called “PhD” course - the initials stand for “Pimpin’ Hoes Degree” - how to groom women into sex work.

    Members are instructed by some of the War Room leadership - known as “generals” - to romantically seduce, emotionally manipulate and socially isolate women before luring them into performing on webcams - often taking all or most of the money they make.

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    I know this is not gonna be some revelation, but: I have literally never encountered someone who makes their whole identity about being an Alpha for the sake of getting women, being superior to other men, etc, who doesn’t have some deep insecurity at the heart of it (and not very well hidden).

    Mostly the dudes who are what Andrew Tate wants to be have interests like fishing or carpentry or business or some particular sports team. They don’t spend all their time in the “war room” scheming with other dudes how they can work together to trick women into having sex with them.

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      scheming with other dudes how they can work together to trick women into having sex with earning money for them.

      FTFY

      Call him what he is: a pimp. He made his money pimping women online. They’re not full blown prostitutes, AFAIK, but he’s still just a pimp. The dangerous part is he’s successfully parlayed this into a “hustle mindset” to get rich, when pimping and conning people into paying him for his “wisdom” is how he got rich. So he’s also a conman.

      That’s the dangerous thing about him. My step-kids think he’s worth listening to because, “it’s just different for men, you know?” No I don’t know, and I’ve been a man a lot longer than this asshole or them. Any time I ask them to explain it to me, they can’t. “It’s just different.” It’s not that I think my step kids are going to start grooming women for sex work, but it’s entirely possible that they’re subconsciously seeing women as “less than” and painting it as “men’s responsibility to protect and provide.” And that’s pretty toxic IMO.

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      Per the article, the leader of the “War Room” is a 60+ year old man who has been involved with “at least two cults.”

      Everyone who falls for Tate’s schtick is always some lost little boy with no sense of purpose, often occupying a grown man’s body.

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    Legitimately one of the few people in the world I’m not sure I wouldn’t just attack if I saw them in the streets. There’s a lot pieces of shit out there. A lot who have or had a really big effect, like Trump or Höcke or Rogan or so. But Tate is a special kind of disgusting, horrible and not worthy of, frankly, the air he gets to breathe.

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      He’s barely worth the effort of anything resembling an attack. That implies effort. He deserves the equivalent of accidentally stepping on a snail.

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      Attacking him would be a mistake because he’d definitely press charges and then make money from his idiot followers from it.

      Just remind him his dad never loved him and walk away.

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      I’d rather not imagine it. There’s an entire population of failed men who lost the chance to ever make something of themselves when they decided to make idolizing rapists a part of their identity politics.

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        The important question there is why are there so many failed men in the first place.

        You have to be utterly desperate and broken to look up to a slug like Tate.

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        The truly terrifying part is that it’s not just men. Lots of teenage boys look up to Tate. That scares the shit out of me. The fallout from him will be multi-generational.

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        Not even, I know men in stable relationships with good jobs that look up to this guy for some reason or another. Its absolutely ridiculous. They think he got arrested for “his opinions”.