• AttackBunny@lemmy.world
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    There are a large number of Americans that think:

    1. Anything touching them there makes them gay - still not sure how your hand and TP is any different
    2. It will hurt - yeah… IDK
    3. It’s gross, or it doesn’t get you clean - uh…wiping some paper on it does? how???
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    No one understands what a bidet really is.

    In the old days, they were a separate free-standing device. Not a lot of people have space or money to add one of these types of bidets to their bathrooms

    Now they make them as toilet seat attachments that don’t require extra space and really aren’t that expensive.

    But people don’t know. Older people will be like, “Oh a bidet? No I don’t want another toilet like device in my bathroom”

    So that gets rid of all those people.

    Next you have the people that know about the new style bidets that’s just a fancy toilet seat.

    Their biggest deterrent is probably cold water. Spraying cold water on their butt doesn’t appeal to most people.

    You can get bidets that heat the water, but you have to have power behind your toilet, which not everyone has.

    Then you have older people that just can’t work them or don’t feel like they can. Like my grandfather, I installed one with all the bells and whistles for him. Yet hitting a button and doing all that was too complicated. He was 90+ and could barely use a cell phone for basic functions. But he’d rather wipe his butt like he knew than mess with the “complicated” bidet.

    Eventually everyone is going to own a bidet, it really is the way to go.

    We just aren’t there yet.

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      Having used both types, including a water warming seat installed one, I can’t say enough good things about the free standing ones. The toilet seat ones though seem like a waste of time, even if they warm the water.

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      Cold water, yeah in winter in Canada your cold water is something like 1°C (33°F), not a pleasant thing

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        Water doesn’t have to be 0°C (32°F) to freeze.

        Depending on your elevation, it can change.

        If the water in your pipes is even close to 1°C you have a serious problem.

        You can also hook a bidet to your hot water line

        The first bit of water will be wall temperature water and it will take a bit to fully warm up because you have to clear out the lines (some bidets will drain the first bit of water before squirting you)

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    I think you me question is missing some key words. “Why isn’t the use of the bidet more widespread in the USA and other western countries?”

    I am in Vietnam right now and nearly every bathroom has a bum gun to wash your bits. When I was in Japan nearly every bathroom had bits to wash you built into the toilet seat with digital controls. These are not just in homes and nice places, but also at 7-11, train stations, airports and even hole in the wall places. Wish USA/Canada had this as we all know how much it sucks when out and you have a forever wipe.

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      Same as in Thailand, Japan, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore, India, Pakistan, Iran, China… Yeah it’s most of the world.

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      I have never heard that and it deeply disturbs me because this does seem like it’d be an American thing…

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        “better red than dead” is a joke - that’s usually a play on political parties or football teams. But what isn’t a joke, something that I’ve heard from american women, is that they’ve dated some american men who:

        • don’t masturbate because touching a penis is gay
        • don’t wash their penis with soap and water, just water, letting the water run down the penis, but not touch it, because you’d be holding a man’s dick in your hands.
        • if they do masturbate, they might just leave their mess on the floor, even if it’s carpet, for years and never clean it. Stains under a computer desk should be treated with a hazmat suit. This is different from the american men who save their mess in jars… I have no comment for that.
        • don’t touch their penis when they pee. that’s what the zipper in the front is for. I mean, doing this in public would mean other men see you with a man’s cock in your hand. That’s … uh you know…
        • don’t get prostate exams (this one may be more self-explainitory, doesn’t make it right though).

        And then they (guys who say this stuff) wonder why american men have a mental health crisis. Well (addressing the guys who say this stuff), buddy, part of it is you.

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          And then they wonder why american men have a mental health crisis. Well, buddy, part of it is you.

          What part of any of that makes it partly because of me? This seem more like an off-topic rant.


          I am an American and the only two I’ve heard is:

          “don’t masturbate because touching a penis is gay”

          Every time has been religion driven homophobia related.

          don’t get prostate exams (this one may be more self-explainitory, doesn’t make it right though).

          Goes back to the last one as well.

          Probably why religion has been on a decline.

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    It’s a matter of planning and availability. In my country people don’t renovate their houses often and even rarely build them from scratch. Having a bidet requires planning and leaving space for it. Japanese style toilet seats are easier to install in smaller toilets, but they require electricity and/or hot water.

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    I’ve read that one reason could be due to prostitution during WWI / WWII.

    Americans saw bidets over in Europe during the war, mainly at brothels, which gave them the idea they were unclean, non-Christian, idk. Maybe if you said you liked bidets then everyone knew you had been to a brothel.

    I didn’t fact check it. Doesn’t really matter - I’m taking a poop right now and I’m about to blast the poop away with my Toto. Eat this pleasant, warm water, turd balls.

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      How hypocritical to be in a brothel thinking “Feh… not clean enough for MY holy bung.”

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    I paid for a 250$ bidet toilet seat and i don’t even use it. How is it supposed to work? My stool are soft sometimes, and even with the bidet pressure to the max, it doesn’t fully clean it. I’m left with dripping wet ass covered with shit. Then i need to use toilet paper that’s literally melting from all that water on my ass. As a result i use 3x more toilet paper and my hands gets dirty. Very unpleasant.

    Am i using it wrong?

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    In America? Because we are barbarians.

    I kinda think that’s why we are all so pissed and ornery most of the time….because our tushes are dirty.

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    I was overseas and recovering from surgery. I’d never seen a bidet before arriving in Argentina a few days before, so I still wasn’t used to them.

    In any case, I was sitting on this bidet at 3am or something, on painkillers, and almost falling asleep while I sit there. I’m leaning forward, and turn the bidet, and it turns out this bidet has a jet of water almost powerful to reach the roof. And because of the angle I was sitting at, I get this jet of high pressure water right on my clit. I’m pretty sure the noise I made woke most of the neighbours! It was not a fun experience

    That being said, I’d still get one here in Australia if I could :)