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alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Calls for ‘ecocide’ law to punish those who destroy nature like war criminals

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

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Calls for ‘ecocide’ law to punish those who destroy nature like war criminals

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Scotland could become one of the first countries to establish a specific crime for mass environmental destruction as championed by late Scots barrister Polly Higgins.
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  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        Only if they can blame black people for it.

    • PunnyName@lemmy.world
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      Cool beans!

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      conservatism

      Consevationism, there’s so many other aspects of conservativism than conservationism, the capitalists/right wingers aren’t going to hurt themselves by outlawing all of conservativism.

      Conservativism also touches on race, religion, economics, and others that are unique or spawned by the main tenets of conservativism.

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    Start by taking away private jets and private flights from rich people. As all laws do, this one will also apply only to regular and poor people, not even big companies and certainly not for rich. Just look at what Musk is doing to nature reserve nears his launch pad. He was warned, didn’t get launch permissions, doesn’t have permission for letting untreated water into ground from cooling… and yet he does all that and no one bats and eye. Just look at the main page of Lemmy and you’ll see news of some dude flying alone in 747 because he can. Royal family has been known to fly across the ocean to get lunch.

    I meant you can live as carefully as possible, walk everywhere, never fly a plane and live only on solar for multiple lives and you couldn’t offset what they fuck up in a day.

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      Is the Saudi royal family’s emissions offset by planting 10 billion trees?

      https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-sees-fields-green-with-major-tree-planting-drive-2021-03-27/

      • MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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        “Plans to” and actually planted those trees are two different things. But that would be a great solution. Wood is a renewable material, easy to work with and most importantly keeps carbon trapped until its burned or rotten. In other words, plant trees, make stuff with wood.

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        Carbon offset isn’t real.

      • revengebreaker@kbin.social
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        No, carbon offsetting doesnt work. Only actual emission reduction

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          The least educated take on carbon offsetting.

          Did you know that US EPA considers forestry management as an emissions sink?

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            Of course they think that, because the EPA will do whatever it can to pad it’s emissions ratings for the Paris Climate Accord. Carbon offsetting does not work, due to wildfire and insect risk.

            Sources:
            https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/07/federal-government-renewable-energy-certificates-climate-change-net-zero-misleading/

            https://www.opb.org/article/2023/08/02/climate-change-carbon-offset-oregon/

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    Not like we punish war criminals that strictly either…

    • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world
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      L m a o

      This. Everything looks so tasty on paper tho!

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      Yeahhhh I don’t wanna shit on anyone’s day but this is entirely unenforceable.

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    I think we need to address this not just at individuals or corporations, but at nation states in which those individuals reside and are licensed.
    We need to kick them in the wallet. Allowing rampant pollution? Extra trade tariffs, and exclusion from various international groups/events. Complicit in rampant pollution? Punitive economic Sanctions, and loss of access to certain technologies, financial networks, etc.

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      Trade tariffs hurt both countries and now is not really the time to be shooting your economy in the foot.

      Targeted sanctions would be referable but are a much more serious form of leverage and will damage credibility.

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    Looks like the non-profit founded by Higgins and Mehta is active in promoting this law on a worldwide scale, with ongoing legislative efforts in Spain, Finland, and Brazil. Here’s their action page to get involved and offer support.

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    It’s self defense. We have to get things under control before greed kills us all

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    Our entire civilization is predicated on ecocide.

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      not really, civilization for a long time was perfectly fine living alongside nature. this problem is only really become a thing since the later industrial revolution

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    Make it retroactive.

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    Punishing individuals over corporations has me concerned. I don’t think that’s a good idea

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