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    The physical miracle demonstrates his identity and power, but they have a spiritual significance beyond the physical. For example, raising the dead indicated that He is the Creator with power over life and death, but also that He can give spiritual life to people dead in their sins.

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    Jesus was only reading the script. It was all setup by his father.

    Remember if you want to be a God you need a Godfather, and I’m not talking about Pacino.
    Jesus basically teached us, how fucked we are, if we’re born poor.

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    There is no remotely reliable evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed.

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    Funny how some people downvote this, but without providing any reliable evidence.

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        Gandolf Gandalf

        No but that’s because Lord of the Rings is way more consistent than the Bible is.

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      There is actually a hell of a lot of evidence he did.

      You can read a capsule summary with references on Wikipedia, but it is accepted fact among historians - not just religious scholars - that Jesus of Nazareth was born in Judea under King Herod, was baptised by John the Baptist, and was cruxified under the orders of Pontius Pilate.

      Here’s a fun excerpt: “There are at least fourteen independent sources for the historicity of Jesus from multiple authors within a century of the crucifixion of Jesus such as the letters of Paul (contemporary of Jesus who personally knew eyewitnesses), the gospels, and non-Christian sources such as Josephus (Jewish historian and commander in Galilee) and Tacitus (Roman historian and Senator).”

      I’m an atheist, but a historical Jesus almost certainly did exist.

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        only two key events of the biblical story of Jesus’s life are widely accepted as historical, based on the criterion of embarrassment, namely his baptism by John the Baptist and his crucifixion by the order of Pontius Pilate.

        Except there is no historical evidence of these events.
        The only evidence there is, is that John the Baptist is an actual historical figure, and there exist AFAIK a reference to Pontius Pilate, although his position is unclear. But the events are NOT documented and neither is Jesus.

        The historicity of Jesus is a concept driven by Christians that have undertaken the biggest accumulated search in history spanning 1800 years, to document the existence of Jesus, and they have turned op NOTHING!!! Just the Mormon church alone has spend massive amounts of resources on this for more than a century. Obviously the Catholic church is by far in the lead, since they are both the oldest and most wealthy of all.

        There are at least fourteen independent sources for the historicity of Jesus from multiple authors

        No there are not, not a single one is contemporary, and not a single one is first hand or even has a reliable source. This is required to be considered reliable historical evidence.
        It may sound convincing on the surface, until you dig into it, and find out it’s all hear say, and it’s all created AFTER Christianity became a thing.
        Also evidence for the existence of Jesus is just about the most faked historical/archeological thing there is. Because it creates fame like nothing else, and churches are willing to pay enormous sums to get their hand on it.

        I’m an atheist, but a historical Jesus almost certainly did exist.

        You didn’t investigate enough to get past centuries of Christian lies and propaganda.

        This is a long piece, but it’s easier than doing the research yourself:
        https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/

        Alternatively you can present me with just 1 piece of reliable evidence for the historicity of Jesus.
        But please before you do, check up on the criticism about it first.