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I don’t think you will heal and honestly I don’t think you deserve to. America as a country hasn’t really been a force for good. For yourselves or for the world. Also I want to point out that what I’m about to say about America is me talking about the country as a whole. I’m not talking about the people in it, I’m talking about the opinions, decisions and foreign presence of the country. A lot of the time people mistake criticizing a country for criticizing its voters. While the voters have a part to play, and a big one, that’s not necessarily who I’m talking about here. If I say “you” I also just mean the country, not you curious_illusions or you the voter. I’m Canadian so that also should be said I guess. Just FYI.
It requires enormous profits, enormous social pressure, or literal wars to get America to move its opinion on fucking anything. And I’m talking about since it’s inception. America is idiotically stubborn and refuses to take in any new points without glacier like movement in the status quo. Moreover, if you could diagnose a country with personality disorders, America would have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The entire world has to be related to the country in some fashion. America has outright invaded foreign countries for no valid reason. I’m not talking about “WMDs in Iraq”, although that is valid, I’m talking about the constant invasion of foreign democracies to install dictatorships that are sympathetic to America. Supplying arms to foreign insurgents because their de-stabilizing the government is beneficial to America. Nuking a country twice and then imposing its will so heavily that this country ends up adopting the US Constitution (granted, tweaking it to suit them, but still). Or overthrowing dictators because it believes that America has the right to police the planet.
Actually the policing the planet thing is something else entirely. The world that gets used often about that is “America has the obligation to do so”. Why? No one asked you. Is it because you have the worlds biggest military in some big-truck-tiny-dick syndrome but in Country form? The obligation only comes from the narcissism of putting yourself in a position where the world has to listen to you. The constant psychotic levels of pressure that America puts on foreign countries because it doesn’t align with American values. And I mean values. Sure, a lot of it is often done because profits, but a lot of it is straight up done over values. America threatened to impose heavy trade restrictions with Canada when we wanted to legalize weed in the 90s. Closing the border I get if the drug is illegal in the US, but trade restrictions? Another example of American Imperialism.
So by now, if you’re still reading this at all, you’re probably wondering what the absolute hell this has to do with your original point of the country healing. This is my point. You can’t. All of that shit I listed above (and way more that I had typed out and deleted) is directly because of one extremely simple thing. You’re too big and have too many people. It’s ended up with everyone willingly dividing themselves into regional groups with heavily entrenched positions. People from the north just don’t get people from the south. The opposite is true. People from the East Coast don’t quite get people from the West coast. The opposite is true. You’re all holding knives and then decided to cram up under one umbrella, the Federal Government. A government that cannot rule for the people because the people have schizophrenia. Republicans and Democrats are not compatible and never really have been. The people, as a whole, cant decide on anything collectively while the people, collectively, are fucking dying. You’re killing each other through crass social policies, literal mass murder, and deprivation of medical assistance. The only thing you have in common is a paradoxical patriotism for the country none of you can agree on!
America needs to split into multiple countries. 2, 3, 5. Whatever. This just can’t keep going. You’re going to eventually destroy yourselves, and considering the utterly unnecessary size of that tiny-dick-syndrome military, the rest of the world in the process.
Edit: Honestly guys, your downvotes just prove my point. You are so entrenched in a disgusting amount of patriotism that you cannot see the simple fact that you just don’t deserve to be a country. Not one so large. The civil war happened because of a frustration of states rights, that certain states were being ignored and suppressed to give ‘better treatment’ to others. Now of course that was a thinly veiled excuse when they wanted to say “we want to keep our slaves” but the states rights thing had a point. Your country is too large to govern itself accordingly, yet you have the fucking nerve to invade the rest of the planet. You sit there judging everyone else when your own country allows you to rot from within. You actively cheer and hope that a country can be saved that was declared brain dead under Reagan in the 80s.
You’re performing CPR on a decaying corpse. The downvotes and opinions of those blowing air down a flapping trachea aren’t exactly something I give weight to.
I feel like you have a poor understanding of a lot that you talk about. So let’s just focus on the current politics and if America can heal.
This issue isn’t a east coast vs west coast thing. This is a rural vs urban issue. That’s reflected in voting in major cities vs rural areas of the same states. For that America isn’t the only place suffering from this issue. It’s why you can see fascism in general on the rise in a lot of countries. The same reason it has always worked, really. It makes life easier to blame someone/anyone else for issues. Which is the lifeblood of fascism.
It’s not that young people are leaving rural areas because they feel like there’s limited opportunity, but it’s the liberals corrupting them. It’s not that their industry is dying, but people in the cities are attacking them. It’s not that pay is poor and the work is hard so people will look for other jobs, it’s migrants/lazy workers/greedy people wanting more.
Fascism is able to latch onto these and say we’ll punish the X so that your issues go away, and once they’re gone life will be perfect. Oh X wasn’t the issue, well it’s really Y, and so on. All that’s ever needed is the correct person to stand up saying elect me and I’ll punish the X,Y,Z and it’ll make us better again, but always tends to ignore/help the real issue.
We need to increase opportunities in the rural areas, there will still be push back but it’ll help the pain of people leaving and industries dying. Need to raise working standards so immigrants aren’t abused, but also may attract other people. That way it can’t be so easy to blame them. And need to fix where wealth is leaving well nearly everyone. A poor town stays poor if most of the goods and services are imported and the people providing them don’t reinvest into the area.
All of that is still a simplification, but as I said these issues aren’t local to the US. It’s just consuming mostly US news it’s easy to miss other countries struggling with the same issues.
No, I understand pretty well.
I never said that it was an east vs west thing. I used east vs west as one of a couple of examples. The issue is that the country is catastrophically divided between numerous sides who see their point as being ‘right’. In doing so, they are destroying the lives of EVERYONE by constantly pulling the chain. The country is so large that this constant pulling of the chain is fragmenting every state. No one is getting what they want or what they need. Shit I’ve already said and I’m tired of re-explaining myself.
Rural vs Urban is a problem, and one that needs to be talked about, but it has no place in response to the comment that I’ve made. Your entire point falls flat when other countries have similar issues but to a far less extreme extent. The push and pull of Urban and Rural isn’t what’s causing your country to invade the foreign democracies of others. It isn’t what’s pushing your country to disavow it’s own citizens so heavily that they literally rot away in prisons, eaten by bed bugs. The push and pull of Urban/Rural isn’t what’s allowing gun rights to run on an extremist route where you have one side saying “Please reduce access to guns so my children don’t die” and the other side then responding with increasing the amount of firearms in/near/around schools. The push and pull of Urban/Rural isn’t what’s having one side say “We welcome Immigration” and the other side installing circular saw blades and nets in rivers to saw immigrants in half or for arresting people who dare to give food/water to immigrants.
I’m not entertaining your nonsense any further.
So if you acknowledge that it’s a rural versus urban issue and not a geographic East versus West issue then how does splitting the country up into two or three other countries help?
I acknowledged that rural/urban was an issue, not the issue. Moreover, I said that East vs West was one of multiple examples I gave. Meaning that North/South/East/West are all a disaster and no one gets along. You know. Like I said.
Your comment is based on a failed understanding on your part, not an issue of logic on mine.
Edit: Genuinely can’t stop laughing at you utter fuckwits who somehow can’t understand that there are more directions than east/west and that north/south doesn’t equal rural. But thank you for conclusively proving my point that Americans don’t deserve to have a country lmfao
This might be because you are not clearly conveying what you mean. You brought up east vs west and north vs south but didn’t really say in what they don’t understand each other. You should consider taking the hostility down a notch.
The actual ‘rural’ population of the us represents 18% of the population. So the theory that ‘rural vs urban’ is the defining demographic of the political division in this country has a math problem.