Summary

Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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    19 days ago

    I will never understand why people want the time we only use for 3 months to be the time we use for the whole year. I would rather people just be able to admit that December is dark (for the northern hemisphere) and we can do shit at a different time.

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        18 days ago

        Totally this discussion has been going on for ages let’s just say its dumb in this fay and age and stop it.

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      19 days ago

      Yep, the “standard” time should definitely be what we currently call daylight saving.

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      18 days ago

      It’s the standard. It’s what clocks are “supposed” to be set at. DST forces everyone to pretend it’s another time. Let people take advantage of summer daylight how they see fit rather than forcing them to.

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        17 days ago

        It’s what clocks are “supposed” to be set at

        Even better for us Dutchies: CEST shifts us one hour, but our timezone is the same as the rest of the mainland, but technically we’re inside the UTC zone, so we’re actually shifted 2 hours from where we’re supposed to be!

        Fuck the economy, I want our times fixed, so we can sleep better!

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    19 days ago

    The simple fact is that on the Monday after DST starts, more people have heart attacks and strokes.

    Meaning that not going away from it means people will continue to die from it.

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    18 days ago

    They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

    I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

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      18 days ago

      More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.

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    18 days ago

    I would have never known if it wasn’t because a coworker told me or because of articles like these. My cat wakes me up at 7- 7:30 and he did that this morning too, so I was very surprised that I slept only 7 hours instead of 8 (before I knew). But the funnits part is that my cat followed DST haha

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    18 days ago

    I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

    A) 1 hour

    B) 2 hours

    C) 3 hours

    D) 2 hours 30 minutes

    E) any of the above

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      18 days ago

      American here, trick question, it’s E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn’t pay payroll taxes, so his working hours are of no consequence.

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      18 days ago

      When I worked an hourly job on the night shift, we would all clock out to change the time and then clock back in.

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    19 days ago

    Mid-day should be the middle of the day. Mid-night should be the middle of the night.

    If you like more light in the evening morning go to bed late and wake up late. If you like light in the morning evening, go to bed early and wake up early.

    Stop fucking with the clocks and making nonsensible decisions

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      19 days ago

      Mid-day should be the middle of the day. Mid-night should be the middle of the night.

      You’d need new clocks, those times drift every day, so 12:00 midday would need to change automatically.

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        19 days ago

        There are a lot of regions that are put into the wrong time zone, because that’s easier for business. They’re not even close to 12:00 being the middle of the day especially during DST.

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        19 days ago

        This but unironic. Employers just do what everyone is doing, and will stop when everyone else does.

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          19 days ago

          You’re more likely to win the euromillion than to successfully shift norms away from the 8:30-18:00 working hours. This shit is baked into every employment contract out there. I work an office job where it doesn’t matter so much, but anyone who works shifts or a time-sensitive job is stuck there basically forever regardless of the time zone.

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      19 days ago

      We need a standard system for tracking time. If every city decides their own time based on the sun it will be chaos.

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          19 days ago

          I’ve had way too many conversations with people that simply can’t comprehend how that works. “But then we’d have to do everything so much earlier, it would be dark all the time.” I try to explain that we’d still do everything at the same time of day, just call it something different, but they just can’t wrap their minds around that.

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    18 days ago

    Wasn’t DST invented in America? How did it even get adopted by the EU?

    I’m also seeing that it was formerly used in Russia, India, South America, and some parts of Africa, and it is still used in 4/5ths of Canada and 1/3 of Australia.

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      18 days ago

      New Zealand entomologist George Hudson first proposed modern DST.

      Easy to google, bud. Also, the concept is ancient.

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        18 days ago

        That guy was in 1895, which is a hundred years after Ben Franklin suggested it, but neither of them were responsible because it wasn’t adopted until the early 20th century in Canada, Germany, Austria, and the USA roughly in that order.

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          18 days ago

          Well thanks. TIL.

          Having said that, “mentioning” is not inventing.

          It would be cool if we had fat burning pizza. There you have it. I mentioned it first, so I invented it.

          • misteloct@lemmy.world
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            18 days ago

            Not your fault that the Internet is full of casual misinformation. None of us are immune from that.