Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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      9 months ago

      @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone said

      I can’t wait for Trump to die

      DANGER Will Robinson! we can’t threaten people here, not even oompaloompas.

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m not a great shot, but at 130m firing from a prone position I would have made that shot 9 times out of 10. Heck, I had my family on the range firing a diemaco c7 (the colt Canada ar15) as part of a family appreciation day in my home guard company. They hadn’t shot more than an air rifle before, and after about three rounds each they shot killing shots at a silhuet at 200m.

      How that guy could miss is beyond me. Almost like it was intentional.

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      I’m not American but wouldn’t that mean Vance becomes president? It’s tempting to think he couldn’t be any worse, but trump likes the fucker so who knows?

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        Honestly, Vance seems even worse to me. Trump has that embarrassing grandpa vibe and he seems too stupid to make any important decisions on his own or realize what he’s doing. Vance gives me a determined murderous intent vibe.

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          Yeah Vance seems like a straight up dangerous psychopath. I’m very scared of him getting more power. (I’m worried already by the immense power he already has) I hope public support galvanizes against him quickly.

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            Vance is much less capable than Trump (and yes, I realize the complete deapth of incompetence that would imply). The harm that he could do would be negated by the complete inability of anyone around him to take him or any threat from him seriously. Especially those on his own side.

            Trump, at the very least, still has the threat of his rabid fans to wield.

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              Less capable? I’m not so sure, the dude has backchannel smarmed his way into being VP at the age of like fucking 12, he’s smart and ambitious and evil. Bad combination.

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                He’s there because he is a willing toady and not a threat to Trump. No one would be willing to follow him.

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        The main benefit of it is a lot of the MAGA movement will wither with him gone. Someone will be a successor to it, but I don’t think anyone is as influential to that movement as he is.

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        After watching the trump, JD, zelensky situation, I lost a big of respect for JD. He acted like a twat. Trump is definitely a better president than him. President that is. They are both douchebags, but so far doing good for the country.

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            Don’t indult your elders, grandpa’s have been through some shit. Sadly I can’t berate you with realities though as I’m not even close to being that old.

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          I’m curious, what good do you see trump doing for the country? It seems to me that he’s doing a lot of harm but we probably have differing views

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                I’m starting to think maybe the username isn’t just a username, and the account is literally for a wall panel to express its views.

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              You don’t get to claim you’re protecting women with transphobic laws when you’re actively inviting sex traffickers like the Tate Brothers to Florida… the whole anti trans women in sports is just misogyny.

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              Can women be in men’s sports?

              What about the veterans who lost their government job?

              What efficiency has been created?

              What if he starts concentration camps, is that enough to compare Trump to Hitler? Or does it have to specifically be death camps? What if people in those concentrations camps just disappeared and nobody cound find them, would that count?

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      Oh shit. I just got here. I see Lemmy is dangerously woke too. Wishing someone to die is rather nasty. I do agree putting that on tv was stupid, world leaders should do all their negotiating (bickering) behind closed doors.

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        It was put on TV on purpose to make Zelensky look weak and make the US look strong (it’s called propaganda) and so daddy Vlad can see that Trump is a good boy.

        I can happily confirm that the woke mind virus is alive and well on Lemmy.

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          You’re half right. It was put on TV to make Zelenskyy look good and for Trump and Vance to look like fools, and they played right into it.

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          It didn’t work very well, if anything it made zelensky look human, JD look like a prick, and trump look like… trump? I like what trump and co have done so far to fix the mess of woke and corruption, but even I didn’t like trump or JD after watching this. If they really were trying to do as you say, they failed. Big time.

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        We are woke and bang hot liberal chicks. You are an incel and masturbate to anime and the fantasy of having a tradwife, a fantasy that will never materialize. We are not the same.