Summary
Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.
Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.
During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”
The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.



I’m not American but wouldn’t that mean Vance becomes president? It’s tempting to think he couldn’t be any worse, but trump likes the fucker so who knows?
Maybe they can die together?
in a bunker somewhere
Poetry <3
I certainly wouldn’t be crying myself to sleep that night.
I don’t think anyone would be sleeping with so much partying going around lol
Honestly, Vance seems even worse to me. Trump has that embarrassing grandpa vibe and he seems too stupid to make any important decisions on his own or realize what he’s doing. Vance gives me a determined murderous intent vibe.
Yeah Vance seems like a straight up dangerous psychopath. I’m very scared of him getting more power. (I’m worried already by the immense power he already has) I hope public support galvanizes against him quickly.
Vance is much less capable than Trump (and yes, I realize the complete deapth of incompetence that would imply). The harm that he could do would be negated by the complete inability of anyone around him to take him or any threat from him seriously. Especially those on his own side.
Trump, at the very least, still has the threat of his rabid fans to wield.
Less capable? I’m not so sure, the dude has backchannel smarmed his way into being VP at the age of like fucking 12, he’s smart and ambitious and evil. Bad combination.
He’s there because he is a willing toady and not a threat to Trump. No one would be willing to follow him.
The main benefit of it is a lot of the MAGA movement will wither with him gone. Someone will be a successor to it, but I don’t think anyone is as influential to that movement as he is.
Vance doesn’t have any of Trump’s presence. He’s just such a weenie.
After watching the trump, JD, zelensky situation, I lost a big of respect for JD. He acted like a twat. Trump is definitely a better president than him. President that is. They are both douchebags, but so far doing good for the country.
You need to drink your meds, grandpa.
Don’t indult your elders, grandpa’s have been through some shit. Sadly I can’t berate you with realities though as I’m not even close to being that old.
I’m curious, what good do you see trump doing for the country? It seems to me that he’s doing a lot of harm but we probably have differing views
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Man, you’ve really eaten all the propaganda huh? Leave some for the rest of us man
I’m starting to think maybe the username isn’t just a username, and the account is literally for a wall panel to express its views.
Wow, a real one in the wild. It’s incredible to see how twisted your perception of reality is.
Can women be in men’s sports?
What about the veterans who lost their government job?
What efficiency has been created?
What if he starts concentration camps, is that enough to compare Trump to Hitler? Or does it have to specifically be death camps? What if people in those concentrations camps just disappeared and nobody cound find them, would that count?
Russian trolls and bots have arrived.
You don’t get to claim you’re protecting women with transphobic laws when you’re actively inviting sex traffickers like the Tate Brothers to Florida… the whole anti trans women in sports is just misogyny.