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A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine’s “surrender” terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.

Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.

Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.

  • ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Finland’s Mika Aaltola of the European People’s Party claimed that the U.S. “has given us three weeks to agree on terms for Ukraine’s surrender,” referring to a proposed peace deal aimed at ending the war.

    “If we don’t, the United States will withdraw from Europe,” Aaltola added.

    Trump is demanding that Europe hand Ukraine to Russia, or he will hand Europe to Russia. This man is not working for the good of the USA or its traditional allies. He is working against them, destroying Europe, NATO and the USA for the sake of himself, Vladimir Putin and a few Nazi billionaires.

    And clearly when he threatens Europe like that they should not for a minute believe that he will not hand them over to Russia if they do what he says. Given that, Europe should tell him to get lost.

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    I mean, we’ve all already assumed US capitulation and cessation of any alliance tbh. It only took about two weeks.

    Jog on.

    Best of luck with China and that supply chain. They’re looking at how you’re throwing Ukraine under the bus and thinking “Oh hell yes”.

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    Fuck him. First, he’ll do what we wants regardless of whether you concede to his demands. If we wants to withdraw troops, he’ll withdraw them, no matter what concessions you make to him in hopes of preventing that. Look at his history. Look at how he has treated the other party in Every. Single. One. of the “deals” that he’s made. He fucks them over. NEVER believe he’ll hold up his side of whatever bargain you make. He won’t.

    Don’t ever concede to this bully. The more you concede, the more demands he’ll make, like with a blackmailer. Call his bluff. Say, “Sorry, we don’t agree. If that means you’ll withdraw, then don’t let the screen door hit ya where the good lord split ya on the way out.” Bam! End of bullying and if he didn’t want to withdraw, he’ll find some excuse no to go through with it (or probably just lie and say you agreed to do something for him behind the scenes).

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    Do it! I dare you! Fuck of from europe! Take all your companies with you! Dont sell us weapons anymore!

    Democracie is none negotiatable and we dont negotiate with terrorist acomplices!

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      You’re assuming they didn’t help bring this about in the first place.

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    What would be the purpose of US support in Europe if not defending against Russia?

    The US presence in Europe exists to facilitate US power projection, if we are not stopping Russian advancement then there is no reason for host countries to allow US bases in their territory.

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      Cleary its time for Europe to round up, cage up, and deport all Americans and put a wall around Europe. And America will be made to pay for it.

      If its a good enough policy for mexican and central american countries’ citizens then its a good enough policy for American citizens. They have no right to flee their own collapsing country into Europe, bringing their failed philosophies and neglected personal health with them. Doubly so if they are poorly educated. Many of them are probably servants of Putin and his terrorism, thus terrorists themselves.

      Lets try that one on for size. Doesnt feel very good does it, my fellow Americans.

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      I think most americans simply feel like they are losing stuff theyve had for a long time, never considering whether they should have had it to begin with.

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      US failed to stop the Russian advancement in Ukraine. So the US is backtracking from the war, in hopes of salvaging it’s relationship with Russia, to prevent another Cold War with Russia + China.

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    The European NATO members should tell the AmeriKans they have 3 weeks to shutdown all their military bases until Jan 2029.

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    Even if we were to agree to those demands, there is no garantie they would actually help in defense of us!

    We had to defend them when they called articel 5 but wont do the same for us!

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      I really hope the rest of the world leaders keep this at the forefront of their mind: Trump doesn’t keep his word. Also, Trump doesn’t pay his debts.

      Attempting to make ANY deal with him is foolish. The wisest move is to expect him to screw over anyone who attempts to “work with” him, because unless you’re holding his purse strings, he’ll use you and lose you at his soonest opportunity. He is a cancer cell stealing resources from all the healthy cells around him - expect him to give nothing and take everything for his own gain.

      I know to some that is “preaching to the choir,” but living in the U.S. at a time like this, I really don’t know who’s been charmed by his BS vs who can see what’s really going on. I imagine those outside the U.S. have better perspective, but I can’t just expect people to be rational anymore.

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      As an American I am begging Europe not to give in to appeasement. Traitorapist Trump is a huge liar and buffoon. You have to stand up to Trump or he will keep abusing you over and over. Europe + Ukraine is way more powerful than Russia is anyway. Also, we need a big shock to the system to take our country back from Putin’s stooge.

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    We need regime change in the USA. The global community should work together for this endeavor.

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      Most of the global community benefits from Trump’s government. They aren’t looking for a regime change. Western nations and US Eastern allies are the ones that are being betrayed.