Summary
DOGE initially claimed an $8 billion ICE contract reduction, but the actual figure was 1,000 times less at $8 million.
Despite correcting the ICE figure, DOGE did not adjust its overall $55 billion savings estimate, which lacks clear justification.
The ICE error wasn’t the only issue. CBS News found DOGE had triple-counted a $654.99 million savings on a single contract, overstating savings by as much as $1.96 billion.
Critics argue the errors remain unaddressed because “the propaganda of the numbers is important to them.”
Answer: yes, and so is trumps. Does anyone actually listen to what come out of their mouths? They just pull numbers out of their asses. $10, 1 billion, tens of thousands, hundreds of millions, probably more, I mean it’s just all made up.
Trump made up a number earlier today saying Zelenskyy’s approval rating is “4%”. The actual number is something like 56% iirc.
I mean they are intellectually and morally bankrupt…. Didn’t they want to cut the spending budget by…. More than we actually spend? It’s wild
Wasn’t the stated goal to eliminate 2 trillion in spending? So, he’s destroyed the government’s ability to function and compromised the security of the government’s computer systems he’s only reached 2.75% of his stated goal? But not actually?
I want off this ride
No matter what, Musk will never ever eliminate 2 trillion in spending. I would bet every last dime I have that in 4 years he won’t even come close to that number. Reason? First, corruption within the government does not want to eliminate spending because then it makes it harder for them to skim off the top. Trump just filled the government with lickspittles and lackwits who have no scruples that would prevent them from engaging in behavior like taking bribes or embezzling funds. Second, special interest groups, and most notably the largest special interest group of them all - defense contractors, will absolutely whip their bought-and-paid-for congressional representatives into shape if Musk even goes near the defense budget, which is the majority of where the wasted tax dollars go anyway.
But it doesn’t matter that he won’t come close to that number, even when he cooks the books to make it looks like he’s saving 8 billion and not 8 million, he’ll just declare that any savings at all is still better than it was before even if he fell short of his laughably optimistic target. And the morons will eat it up and pat themselves on the back for gutting the government and exposing the nation’s most sensitive payment information to teenaged hackers.
The media needs to accept that internet trolls are running the U.S. government.
Internet trolls are actually more organized than those clowns.
These people are literally internet trolls, of the 4Chan variety. One of them goes by the name “Big Balls.” And their internet histories keep popping up to show how often they troll.
Indeed, and it is frightening how persistent they are. I have blocked pretty much all their names and various connected terms by now, but my Lemmy feed still consists to a large extent of the nonsense and misinformation that these trolls spread on a daily basis to distract from their criminal activities.
I can only imagine how much worse it must be on the mainstream platforms.
There is simply no escaping the bullshit that spills out of the white house all over the world. Unfortunately, even less so because the local Nazis and the conservatives in my home country have long been using the same troll strategies that they have adopted from the US since they have proven effective in Europe as well.
The continuous noise of these trolls really has nothing to do with politics or news. On the contrary, it’s just vicious anti-politics and deliberate misinformation.
If I may suggest a more concise headline:
“Is Musk just making up- YES!!”
He has profited from it more than any person on the planet. Literally. The ones who are probably richer like Putin or Saudi royals at least stole something of value from their people.
“Just”?
No. Not exactly.
First, they get a list of numbers from musk.
Then they need to filter out all the entries where he forgot to turn off the letters and symbols (look, he has trouble with the whole baby name thing, okay?)
Then they have to delete all the entries that are smaller than the numbers they used before.
Then they have to roll a custom d7, that’s transparent with a suspiciously phallic thing in the center (managers insist it’s a spacex falcon 9,)
This, if they can even read it, tells them which one from the bottom they use then….(it maybe takes a few tries because the knuckledraggers can’t count past 2. They should just use a d2.)
Then they roll a d4 which tells them if it’s “million”, “billion”, “trillion” or “Siri, what comes after a trillion?”
This reminds me of the “consult the chart” scene at the end of the Margaritaville episode of South Park.
I should have worked in a kazoo. ah well. missed opportunity.
Elon: The SSA database doesn’t deduplicate.
DOGE: counts something three times
The problem is that idiots are eating up these numbers. I have a few low information coworkers who just hear the stories about DOGE saving all this tax money on “wasteful” programs on right wing news outlets and are convinced, full stop. Now, they parrot all the information they hear and are “glad that someone is finally doing something about government waste”. They don’t look into whether or not the numbers that Elon Musk spits out are truthful, let alone whether or not those tax dollars were actually having a positive impact.
We live in a post-truth society, and the Republicans have been abusing the people’s willingness to give authority figured the benefit of the doubt. No amount of untruth can ruin their credibility, because all it takes is a tiny kernel of truth to make it seem like it wasn’t actually a lie.
Bro it annoys me to no end that people genuinely believe that the government never does audits. Like all this DOGE bullshit was already an ongoing part of the federal bureaucracy in place to ensure funds aren’t misappropriated.
Do people think there was zero accountability for the money??!?!!
DOGE isn’t saving shit it’s a smokescreen to shift money around and enrich the unscrupulous assholes.
Making up numbers has been Musk’s modus operandi for well over a decade now.
Sadly no longer updated, but still quite informative: https://elonmusk.today/
I just personally saved 44 billion dollars by not buying twitter!
He’s in the right administration for it. Basically straight out of a trump playbook, if you can call narcissism a playbook.
At this point can we all agree to smile and nod when he says he save a bazillion dollars if he fucks off?
Yes. It takes I infinity more energy to refute bullshit than it takes to lay it.
Yes. Safe assumption to start with.
I bet the Trumpers can’t wait until they get their imaginary checks for their share of the imaginary DOGE savings.
Even at its most generous, the title of their findings keeps reading to me as “In Cost-Cutting Endeavor, DOGE, Outraged, Finds that Government is Spending Money”
I already had a coworker try to claim to me that Elon-chan found $100 billion dollars that government employees were racking up on government credit for personal expenses. I am fairly non argumentative in person but even I had to to tell him “that’s bullshit” and explain he’s fabricating excuses to get rid of people and replace them with stooges. Immediately tried to both-sides it and say it’s just replacing one corruption with another.
Lying is certainly effective on our cowardly, ignorant populace.
