• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    I feel so sorry for short-faced dogs. They almost always have breathing problems. We did that to them on purpose for our own amusement and now people want to keep that going. It’s disgusting.

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        Yep. There are strong movememts to undo what is really a very recent and very American practice of breeding in Brachycephaly. The American Kennel Club shamefully has contributed to these standards and glorified them in pure bred animals. Look at historical drawings and paintings of pugs as an excellent example. They were typically much thinner and had much longer snouts than what is idealized today. An increasing number of European breeders led quite strongly by the Germans are breeding Retro Mops or old fashioned healthier pugs. This has unfortunately not caught on in US (fuck the AKC - seriously), but retro pugs which are cross bred typically with terriers are starting to be a thing with a few select breeders. I have a retro mop. He outruns every single dog in his weight class in the dog park both in speed and endurance. He doesn’t need a harness, he has a strong neck and uses a collar. No breathing issues whatsoever. For archival purposes please check out https://pugdogpassion.com/ Therese Rodin has been a huge influence in this modern movement and I wish everyone would review her teachings or speak to her before considering purchasing a Brachycephalic dog.

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          Oh yeah! I’d actually heard of people trying to breed away the smashed in snout on pugs.

          Honestly I’m rather against breeding dogs for appearances in general. Berner Sennen dogs are super sweet, but they pretty much all die prematurely because of their incredibly high rate of inbreeding. I really don’t get the appeal of the hunched back people are looking for in German Shepherds.

          I mean it’s literally eugenics, but for the sake of fashion. Absolutely ridiculous.

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    Cruelty for cruelty’s sake is humanity’s signature move.

    You should see the animals we didn’t find cuteness or utility in.

    Oh wait, you can’t, they’re dead.

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      I mean rats and cockroaches for example are fucking everywhere (I know rats can be cute pets but most of them aren’t). We’re not as efficient an extinction machine as we like to think.

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        only poor people have to deal with rats and roaches; which is why they’re still around.

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      You might find one deep in the jungle if you hurry, after this summer you will probably have to search tho!

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        “deep in the jungle”

        Oh, you mean those ecosystems we cut down to build strip malls in to sell the plastic garbage we make by poisoning the oceans and the air?

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          If these liberals have their way they won’t allow us to make plastic straws anymore, think of it! Using straws made out of a different material like it is from the beginning of time until 1965 or something!!!

          #1776

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    There is a breed of pug, retro pugs, that is a Jack Russell terrier mix. They have elongated snouts, leading to a happier life. Most of the health problems that are unique to pugs, poof, gone.

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    And to think that frenchies are the most sold dog breed in the USA… Makes me sad sometimes.

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    Isn’t that breed forbidden in some countries ? I remember reading something about the Netherlands…

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      Yup. Been banned since 2019. But in 2022, stricter measurements had to be taken in order to prosecute the breeders. In happier news, the university of Wageningen livestock research center started a project on breeding guidelines. Its aim is to perserve and improve the health of dog breeds. Working together with dog owner unions. Think instnces that train dogs for sports for example.