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    No names, no unit numbers, no way to definitively recognize any given individual at a glance?

    So… hypothetically… someone who’s not part of one of the active units, but who has the uniform, the ability to act the part, and the information required to make it happen, might be able to blend in with the oppressors during a military operation? Hmm.

    o but pfft don’t listen to me. I’m just a wild-talking stoner with ADHD

    #stonerthoughts #hypothetical #justgirlythings #lol

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      As a person from a military family, they’d clock you instantly. Once you live among military people, you begin to be able to spot who is or isn’t military instantly. Even not being in the military myself, I can almost always at least guess their branch and get within a rank or 2. I’ve never seen my dad not get branch and exact rank within a couple seconds of talking to someone

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    Same thing they did when beating up and shooting BLM.

    Edit: It’a really hard to find any report on the events during the BLM protests. I distinctly remember many mentions of the LEOs involved in shooting “rubber bullets” at protesters and beating them not having any identifying information on them. No names, no agency tags, nothing.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/law-enforcement-badges-protests/index.html

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    Hey gang, I’m very closely related to this field and wanted to share some insight into this!

    This is VERY COMMON practice for these situations. The idea is not to cover up inhumane tactics, but protect our personnel. While I’m sure a majority of these individuals are simple illegal immigrants who have no ill intentions, there are criminal gangs being caught up in this. Not the entire gang is being picked up, just the illegal immigrants. So the policy of removing identification from the uniforms is to protect the military member and their family.

    These commands come from the highest level, meaning each individual service member is not making the decision for themselves, but they are being commanded as a whole. Much as some might not like the connotations associated with this, it is a common practice and relevant due to the stated purpose of these missions.

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      This is VERY COMMON practice for these situations.

      Maybe it shouldn’t be. You know, what with accountability being a thing that people should be held to…

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        Should an airman’s family be targeted by cartels because they flew cartel members back to their home nation?

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          That’s a good point.

          Maybe we shouldn’t have them do that in the first place either and if there are dangerous cartel members in the U.S., they can be put in U.S. prisons.

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            And after serving prison times what do we do? Most nations kick you out after you serve time in prison for serious crimes. How do you send them home?

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              Last I checked, planes not run by the Air Force flew to pretty much every country on the planet. Also, there are boats. And if we’re talking the Americas, cars and trucks.

              And if they have served their time, why do they need to be deported in a military plane?

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                Do we deport criminals housed in prisons for being dangerous people using commercial carriers?

                They are being permanently exiled for their crimes why would ypu compromise that by letting them wander free?

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                  I see. You think we should continue to treat former prisoners like prisoners even though they’ve served their sentence.

                  How very American of you.

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          Maybe it shouldn’t be. You know, what with accountability being a thing that people should be held to…

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        What is brownshirt?

        Courtmarshall is probably not what you want in this. That’s specific to the UCMJ, which would discipline them for NOT removing identifiers. You probably want them to go through civilian courts if that’s your goal. Which probably means you’re thankful for Trump’s push for increased executions.

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      Thank you for sharing your perspective and informing us that cowardly evasion of accountability in the execution of inhumane operations is a common practice in the service. Some folks out there might not have suspected this already.

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      We’re just trying to hide our identity while committing crimes acting on orders from the Criminal in Chief because all of our white robes and hoods turned pink due to a MAGA cap that somehow ended up in the wash.

      Got it.

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        Fly Away Security Teams/Ravens haven’t been wearing nametapes for decades, this is nothing new.

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      to clarify you are saying this is is so a random airman’s kids aren’t targeted by the cartels because they flew some cartel members back?

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      This is what they say about riot police in oppressive regimes, about prison personnel, about people from special agencies doing surveillance and even arrests.

      I think you can see where I’m going. Removing identification is more harmful than the threat to “the military member and their family”.