I do understand why so many people, especially creative folks, are worried about AI and how it’s used. The future is quite unknown, and things are changing very rapidly, at a pace that can feel out…

  • donuts@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    edit-2
    3 years ago

    AI people just love to disingenuously claim that anybody who criticizes AI “fears” the technology. This is their way of dismissing all critics or skeptics as luddites, and is usefully based entirely on their desire to profit somehow off of the trend.

    Artists don’t “fear” AI… They simply want big tech billionaires to stop stealing their copyrighted art works or other intellectual property in the hopes of generating infinite junk “content”.

    If you want artists to embrace AI, then you’d better be willing to stay paying them to license their artwork for AI training.

    • FMT99@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      3 years ago

      Your comment doesn’t appear to apply to this article at all. It explicitly states that this tool was neither stealing copyrighted art nor a billionaire funded venture.

      In this case it really was the unfounded fear of AI that killed a useful tool via misplaced outrage.

      • brap_gobbo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        3 years ago

        My brother in Christ, if I steal all of your writings and art when you’re not looking, chop them up, eat them, and shit them out, they are still your creations-- just now covered in shit, garbled up, and without your original thoughts and intentions put behind them. If I then sell the pile of shit to someone, I am profiting from your labor.

        I would be less inclined to hate this if I got some form of royalty or even some form of compensation for the hours and hours I’ve spent planning, creating, editing, and studying to make my things.

        • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 years ago

          My brother in Christ, if you can prove you have ever had an original thought in your life, one that hasn’t been influenced by something that someone said before, I’ll eat all the shit. All of it. Every piece of undigested corn. I’m confident in saying that because I know you can’t. We are all products of our environment, and we can all attribute every thought we’ve had to some experience that we’ve had in our life that involved others. You aren’t as unique as you think you are. All the people that told you that were only trying to protect your ego. You are a combination of events that all lead up to this moment, and all of those events are open source. You don’t own anything. No words. No brush strokes. No ideas. All of them come into your mind because you have experienced aspects of this world. Sure, your own combination of experiences may be unique to you, but no more than the data used to train AI. The idea that humans have some monopoly on original thought is pure hubris. We’ve been stealing IP since we learned to draw on cave walls.

    • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 years ago

      AI made creating art accessible for the masses. What these artists are doing now is going to limit it’s creation to corporations. Great.

      • brap_gobbo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        3 years ago

        Art is already accessible to the masses. It was accessible to cavemen. It’s called picking up a pencil, rock, mud, paper, paint, macaroni, feathers, literally anything in your world and making something of it. Everyone has the ability to be an artist. What the AI bros are complaining about is that they want an easy and instant way to replace years and lifetimes of perfecting one’s craft, while piggybacking off of and stealing said labor to profit from it.

        • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          3 years ago

          I think you’re being dramatic and playing right into the hands of corporations who wants to control generated art.

          • brap_gobbo@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            3 years ago

            As someone who has been obsessed with learning about art, technology, and business my entire life, your attitude reflects the dollar-seeking and exploitative behaviors in upper corporate America I have seen and dealt with many times. It’s one of the reasons why I left it.

            It’s not hard to be an artist. Every human being with the ability to express themselves in some way is an artist. You are cheaply wanting to skip the steps of either developing your own skills or hiring someone else to create art for you. You are contributing to a world where artists are learning that they should not openly share their creations because it’ll be taken from them, ripped into pieces, and used for profit while they get nothing. These discussions are happening right now.

            • Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              3 years ago

              I think it’s great that artists are learning not to publish if they don’t want their works remixed and transformed! You can just enjoy your work locally, share it in a closed circle, nice and intimate. Or publish it and let the globe do with it wat they want. I think this is much better for art culture than the current copyright rules (which are also made mostly by corpo murica)

              It might not be hard for you to be an image producing artist, but it will be to some. Pretty weird to just wave that away as if everyone that is not able to produce something like that is either lazy or an idiot.

      • stopthatgirl7@kbin.socialOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        3 years ago

        Stealing people’s hard work to spit out pale copies isn’t making art “accessible for the masses.” Artists worked hard to be able to produce the art AI spits out.

        • BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 years ago

          AI doesn’t make copies, in the same way that I don’t make copies when looking up what a dog looks like and then try to draw a dog.

    • Milady@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 years ago

      It’s always “us vs them” huh. I’ll wager you don’t know anything about AI