Summary
Trump’s proposal for the U.S. to take over Gaza and resettle its Palestinian population was widely condemned by allies and adversaries alike.
Arab nations, including Egypt and Saudi Arabia, firmly rejected the plan, reaffirming support for Palestinian sovereignty. U.S. allies like Australia and New Zealand reiterated their backing of a two-state solution.
Critics, including Palestinian leaders and Hamas, denounced the move as illegal and destabilizing.
U.S. lawmakers also opposed it, with some calling it “dangerous” and “ethnic cleansing.”
“ethnic cleansing"
That is the correct phrase here. Start there and keep going.
There’s no such thing as ethnic cleansing. It’s just a weasel word for genocide. It’s all it ever has been. When “ethnic cleansing” was going on in the Balkans in the 90s, it was just a genocide that nobody was intervening to stop. Same for Myanmar in the mid 2010s And for Karabakh in 2020.
Ethnic cleansing exists for when you are destroying a culture through means other than mass murder. It is absolutely a thing and it is not the same as genocide. Gaza is a genocide.
Genocide includes displacement, and does not necessarily require killing (at least per the UN definition)
Agreed. I am tired of this equivocating bullshit. This is genocide.
Well, but there is a pretty significant difference. For example, when the Nazis were planning to send all the German Jews to Madagascar, they were attempting an ethnic cleansing, meaning ‘just’ their removal - They didn’t care when Jews died, but it wasn’t their actual plan to slaughter them all. However, when the Madagascar Plan didn’t seem possible anymore, they switched to genocide in stead, meaning their extermination.
There is a incredibly huge difference between these two things. And please don’t get me wrong, they are both absolutely, unequivocally horrific. Unacceptable, period. But still this difference is important, especially for the victims. In hindsight, I’m sure many people would have wished the Nazis had been successful in their ethnic cleansing. Many more people would have survived.
What Israel has been doing is not ethnic cleansing. They’ve been systematically killing people for no other reason than “because we want to and we can.” I’d call that a genocide. What Trump is describing, however, is ethnic cleansing.
And just to reiterate, I’m not saying it’s not bad. It’s sickeningly bad. But quite different.
I mean a lot of terminology you can argue about but forcefully removing an certain ethnic group from their home region so another group can take over, that’s pretty much the textbook definition.
Arab Countries should immediately backtrack and agree to the proposal with one change.
All Palestinians should be relocated immediately to the county of Palm Beach, Florida at the expense of the United States.
Let Donald Trump welcome a few new neighbors.
They’ll just be genocided here instead
Or slaves because that’s what seems to be coming back
When they fill the prisons and reintroduce child labor, they’ll have more than enough.
Napalm Beach?
From trump
[…]Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent. […]
Yeah, it didn’t take a rocket scientist to know he either was lying or didn’t talk to that many people other than his rich oligarchy
Everybody I’ve spoken to
It must be so rare that this man encounters an expert on anything these days, at least that is not in an adversarial position towards him.
I’ve been around a while and I find it funny that Arab nations are now morally grandstanding on behalf of Palestine to gain points. These nations hate and look down on Palestinians and have refused to help refugees for decades. They speak about Palestinians as if they were subhuman.
I’m glad they’re calling out Trump, but don’t think they actually care about Palestinians.
This is what i’ve come to know too from talking to Palestinian refugees in Sweden. They have never been treated so bad as they where in the interim when they were in Egypt.
I’m Central American and had a conversation with a Palestinian coworker about how similar that is to us and Mexico. Mexico always complains about the treatment of Mexican immigrants by the u.s (rightfully so) but if you’re south or Central American, it’s the Mexican police and government that is most brutal to immigrants from southern countries. The u.s doesn’t treat immigrants half as bad as Mexico does
But, but lots of people who heard the loved it. What’s the problem? /s
Surprised this got announced while there are still hostages to release tbh…
He’ll find somewhere to send the surviving Gazans. One of his strongman allies will happily put them in work camps.
And if he doesn’t, I’m guessing he has an idea for a Final Solution.
The trump administration has already started establishing a new slave trade system with El Salvador, so it’s entirely plausible that they would consider enslaving the Palestinians also. I cannot fucking believe the speed with which we are dropping into dystopia.
Can’t read the article. Too busy watching leopards eat Gazan faces for dinner.
