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      Everything that is exposed to consumer information will be this way soon. It’s an eventuality at this point, not a maybe.

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        They changed their TOS to allow themselves to license everyone’s videos for A.I. training (or anything else). One of the execs tried to say they weren’t doing that but unless they change their TOS, they can and no doubt will.

        For some people, that’s a personal privacy issue but for people who have Zoom calls about, for instance, health records, it makes Zoom illegal. And even if it’s not illegal, companies use video calls for discussing proprietary information they don’t want to be potentially licensed to competitors.

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          Apparently they did:

          As of Monday afternoon, [section 10.4] has a new paragraph in bold below it: "Notwithstanding the above, Zoom will not use audio, video or chat Customer Content to train our artificial intelligence models without your consent.”

          How exactly they obtain customer “consent” isn’t disclosed.

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            I’m not so worried about Zoom adding fancy autocomplete (“training our models”) as I am with them licensing it out. This is what section 10.4 says before the caveat:

            You agree to grant and hereby grant Zoom a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license and all other rights required or necessary to redistribute, publish, import, access, use, store, transmit, review, disclose, preserve, extract, modify, reproduce, share, use, display, copy, distribute, translate, transcribe, create derivative works, and process Customer Content and to perform all acts with respect to the Customer Content, including AI and ML training and testing.

            I don’t think that extra caveat even addresses licensing meeting content to third parties for training A.I.

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              A bit later in the article also addresses this:

              That consent, [Zoom Chief Product Officer Smita] Hashim closed, still won’t allow third parties to train an AI off your calls: “And even if you chose to share your data, it will not be used for training of any third-party models.”

              However, glancing through the ToS I don’t see where Zoom prohibits third-party AI training, only prohibiting training their own models. On the other hand, data for training LLMs is apparently the modern gold-rush and it’s feasible that Zoom wouldn’t want that data to be accessed by any potential competitors.

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          Holy shit how did I not hear about this but the back to the office thing was everywhere? Fuck that, no. No that is not ok. Fuck. FUCK why is everything going to this shit?

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        They also gave an opt-in to allow all your data to be used to train AI models. You auto opt-in if you use any of their AI assisted services

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    TL;DR; - The internet is getting shittier at ludicrous speed, thanks to AI bots. Expect the next generation of AI to be even worse, as it’s likely to be fed the shit the current AI is dropping everywhere.

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      It’d be funny if a lot of bots get discontinued just because the tools can no longer discern real and fake content and just become unusable.

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        They already can’t. They just rely on the assumption that most of the data they collect is correct. Which is generally true, there is more correct than incorrect content on the internet. The inability of the bots to discern incorrect data coupled with their ability to make it sound authoritative is what makes them dangerous.

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    The internet is a place where people can connect from across the world, bringing them closer together and allowing the free exchange of information. It’s unfortunate that it is being more and more locked down and controlled by business and government interests looking to isolate, control, and monetize people. AI isn’t the only tool being used to ruin the internet, but it’s damn effective.

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      “free exchange” is being capitalized by the rich.
      there are countries going through brain drain, this is the internet/world going through a brain drain global recession/dark age

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    capitalism and the rich** ftfy just like they’re destroying the earth and space

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          To get clicks from people searching up things and happening to land on their page, who then read a little bit and see ads before leaving.

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    It’s not “ai”…it’s just a few billionaire assholes.

    & it’s not just the internet. It’s the entire “reality”.

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    Removed as a protest against the community’s support for campaigns to bring about the deaths of members of marginalized groups, and opposition to private entities working to prevent such campaigns, together with it’s mindless flaming and downvoting of anyone who disagrees.

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    This stuff is only economical at scale, it makes no sense to set up an AI spambot farm on startrek.website because you’ll just get banned and you’ll have to do all the ban evasion stuff you have to do on, say, Facebook but for a site with a hundredth of the daily active users