The last panel applies to every other social media, just replace the spying country.
Yes, and that’s why US companies aren’t banned by the US. The foreign power having so much propaganda power was the danger.
Right? Now do Facebook.
There is sooooo much weird conspiracy shit in these comments. The government is banning TikTok becuase they collect too much data and the Chinese government could eaisly get access to all of it. The correct thing to do would be to regulate data collection but that would be problematic for Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple…etc etc… so instead they just ban TikTok. All this TikTok refusing to spread deep state US govt propaganda horse shit is a bit past nuts.
They’re not hiding it. It’s not a “conspiracy” when it’s out the in the open.
I mean occams razor is the best way to feel sane in the disinformation age so im with you. But i think its more accruate to do our best understand what is possible and suspend holding a specific belief like that because it doesnt matter if you are right or wrong. Many things could be true at the same time, especially with who you ask.
Kind of makes our conversations worthless, which i think is the strategy of disinformation. We cant know, so should we really be claiming whats true or not? Seems like we should just offer what seems most likely rather than tell everyone they are wrong unless you have information sources to help them understand why they are likely wrong.
You make a good point and then draw the wrong conclusion.
You hit the nail on the head with what they should be doing (broad industry regulations), but then you COMPLETELY missed the point you made. Congress is NOT banning TikTok because they collect too much data, they’re banning it because it’s TikTok and the “data” is just an excuse…otherwise they’d pass real data privacy laws.
Another platform will pop up over the next week if TikTok is banned. What they want is to sell TikTok to someone that will change the platform because it’s too powerful. This isn’t to push “government propaganda”, but simply to change the algorithm to not be so good. They don’t want you to gain class consciousness or have political discourse, they want you to be distracted with silly cat videos and memes…and maybe a side of culture war, but nothing else.
Another platform will pop up over the next week if TikTok is banned.
Or an existing social media will try to take its place; Meta and Google have sites which imitate TikTok’s UI (at least, in part).
I don’t think it’s the only reason necessarily (and I’m inclined to agree your reasons are, at least, part of it) but I think the chance for U. S. companies to cannibalize TikTok’s market demographics is, also, a happy little coincidence of the consequences.
The thing with TikTok is almost all americans on it have gravitated away from other platforms because it has more to offer. I don’t think there’s a large demographic on TikTok who don’t precisely understand why they use TikTok over other platforms. (Edit: youth I suppose) I also believe this is why they want to force TikTok to sell, they want to have it exist as a platform but with new management.
If TikTok doesn’t sell and it does get banned, I almost guarantee the demographic will quickly find themselves on another, likely Chinese owned, platform. This will still be a win for Congress as they’ll have fractured TikTok and weakened the demographic as a whole.
Time will tell.
“It’s okay that the CCP pushes propaganda because billionaires do it too” - Tiktok defenders
Reader’s Note - There has been no evidence submitted showing any of the allegations towards TikTok are true. In fact TikTok publicly embarked on a project to silo all US Data.
OK, but find me an exact quote that actually says that. Not something that sorta sounds like that, but that exactly.
Oh yeah, I forgot the other social media apps don’t collect data and spew propaganda. Oh wait… They do.
FTFY
edit : ooooh the wee St Petersburg trollies are tryin’ ta tryin’ ta ain’tcha!
News flash, responder-guys: if you’re even humans & not the AI bots who took most of your colleagues’ jobs, you’re still always be undervalued by your bosses. They’ll never, ever save you: they’ll save their Teslas and stock portfolios instead. Your life kinda sucks and there’s nothing you can do about it AND YOU CHOSE THIS LIFE, DIDNT YOU. Free yourself. Quit this shit job and go back to school before it’s too late.
whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout tho?
(For anyone reading this in the future: they made that edit addressing “responder-guys” when the comment had only one reply lol 🤡)
nice try sweetcheeks but as predicted, a second came
Oh is that what you were doing? Predicting?
Well, that’s the law. If it helps you, I think China should ban Facebook… Oh, wait.
Yeah, only AMIERICAN companies can spy on our citizens and flood them with propaganda!
USA! USA! USA!
Can someone explain to me how it’s worse for a foreign government to have your information than your own government having that same information? Your own government is far more likely to actually be able to do something about you.
Foreign governments are supposed to buy information from American social media companies. Tik Tok cut out the middleman so they’re getting banned.
It probably won’t make a difference for you, but if you worked in a government facility and they’re spying on you, obtaining credentials, obtaining information on infrastructure in the energy sector, government facilities, etc., getting network credentials, getting floorplans, getting times where a changing of the guard occurs, etc. - any foreign entity can use that info to tear a country down from the inside and kick off a full scale war.
Local government isn’t going to self-saborage with that information. Yeah, spying on the citizens is awful and we should avoid any apps/devices that do that too, but that’s not as bad as war unless it gets so bad that it gets to a point of civil war which seems unlikely.
inb4 tankies claim “conspiracy”:
China hacked US Telecom Infrastructure
China hacking US Treasury
Two recent events I was able to dig up fairly quickly. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s more. Apparently they tapped Trump’s phone too, but not sure how credible the article/source is.That’s true but it doesn’t apply to the vast majority of people. People who work in the government should be more aware of these things and I believe the tiktok ban started as only on government devices which is a lot more reasonable than a blanket ban.
Since this is the place for the most serious discussion:
If US lawmakers focused on protecting American’s privacy with some sensible privacy laws coughGDPR equivalent cough, we could avoid pulling out the ban hammer to play whack-a-mole on these companies.
Companies would simply be punished by the law for being malicious or irresponsible with your data, forcing industries to take privacy seriously and make investments in protecting and not leaking it.
Yes, now they just need the incentive to act and the knowledge of how to operate electronic devices.
Except they’ve banned 1 source for appeasement rather than enact a strong law or policy for long-term safety.
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As someone who dropped TikTok around 3 years ago, the next month or two are going to be very amusing.
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Ho hum. TikTok ain’t going anywhere.
It will be banned for a short while, long enough for Trump to enforce sale to Meta in exchange for their absolute hard turn top to bottom in everything they do to help spread misinformation and keep the plebs angry.
That assumes ByteDance and TikTok approve a sale… They’ve been very adamant they will not.
L take.
i like my all-american freedom and liberty data collection and propaganda
FreeDumb™️
Not only on american citizens…
TikTok singlehandedly got a neonazy elected in eastern Europe.
Putin?
Georgescu in Romania. Who campaigned exclusively through Tiktok. The election was temporarily suspended through.
Yeah the Putin backed far righter.
Good for Romania.
It wasn’t. There’s zero proof of this currently.
The app is banned because congress can’t control. They want you using the platforms where you can’t become class or politically aware.
