Ah, yes, capitalism. Because they don’t have to pay to maintain servers and infrastructure or anything, right?
Nor do they pay for bandwidth when you download your 100gb game for the nth time in the past month.
Nor do they have a ton of functions and services for both devs and consumers like easy refunds, regional pricing, steam keys, trading cards, steam workshop, steam forums, chatrooms, remote play… just to name some.
Yeah, such moneygrabbing comic book villains that just sit in their pile of money and don’t provide anything good.
Honestly, I’ll probally care about this more when someone else tries to make a service remotely close to what steam provides. Hell epic is probally the closest we got and they are in the red AND lacking in function set that steam provides. Steam charges 30% up until 10m and then 25 till 50m then it’d 20% while giving a multitude of extra services the other companies charging similar rates don’t, seems fair to me.
some examples:
gog: 30%
store
review system
epic: 12% (isn’t turning a profit)
store
cloud save
return system
steam 30
store
mod workshop
reviews
discussion forum
return system
Microsoft store 12%
store
review system
Looking into it, IGN made a nice picture (2019 though so a little old perhaps) so I’ll add that too
They provide an easy platform for me to buy games so I use them. The steam deck too. Just because they have a competent product, i don’t think that justifies any arse kissing. Like you say, they’re a company and they’re in business to make money.
Yeah, I can see why developers would be unhappy about the 30%. Maybe there’s an argument to be made that the platform gives these games a greater potential market but I don’t know enough about the business to try making that argument.
Good service is not taking 30% of the revenue on projects that took years to developp and create loot system to get kids addicted to gambling. Life must be so easy when you only care abour you and yourself.
Yes it is, if the service is actually… you know… good.
Let’s see what Valve offers for its 30% cut:
The most robust catalogue on the internet, complete with user-generated tags, search functionality, recommendation algorithms, and fast download speeds.
Steam servers for online multiplayer games, which even supports multiplayer mods like Skyrim Together.
In-depth lifetime analytics for every item on their platform, accessible to everyone.
Reviews, discussion threads and forums for every single game on their platform.
The Steam workshop.
Research and development towards VR, both on the hardware and software front.
Research and development towards their own console.
Funding towards open-source compatibility tools, such as Proton.
Giving employees of Valve an actual good salary, which is unheard of in the gaming industry outside of Valve or the occasional indie team.
The cost of maintaining all the above.
Pro-consumer practices, such as:
Keeping games on their servers, and installable by the customer, even when they’re delisted.
Allowing customers to refund games.
Refunding games when the publisher pulls some garbage, like Sony this year… on several occasions (look into Helldivers and the PSN mandate).
Supporting repairability and modability for their console, the Steam Deck, complete with blueprints and tear-downs.
Find me any platform or company that does all of these things. But I guess you want everything to be free and handed to you on a silver platter?
Lol, you steam fanboy are the biggest jerker on the Internet. You hate video games, what you want is “convenience” because the only thing you can think of is your ass. Let’s be clear, the very second Valve believe it can make more money by selling you buttplugs with Gabe’s face it instead of videogame, they will do it. They have less then 100 employees and take 1/3 of revenue from studios with thousand of employees and people like you will make 30 minutes to jerk them while spitting on those who makes the games. Gamers are the stupidest, most easily manipulatable loser on the planet.
Ok, so, read what you just wrote, carefully. And I do mean actually read what you wrote, because I do hope you will realise how much like a parody you sound like.
Lol fuck off “gamer”.
Any point to make?
I’m sure you believe you love music but only listen to it via Spotify lol.
I use to work in sound for videogames (did you ever had an actual job?) but the main reason I’ve quit his because of people like you who don’t give a fuck about actual studios.
See what’s happening is that most talented people are leaving, the others are laid off and replace by generic AI bullshit that perfectly suits idiotic gamers. Meanwhile there’s more money in video game then ever was, but you people are killing the industry because you keep sucking a business that takes a third of the revenu for basically nothing. You suck, capitalism suck, one day steam will fuck you all the ass because it’s a soulless business and you will get what you deserve. Now go play something and watch Amongog or whaterver stupid youtuber you lioke.
Valve takes 30% on every game sold and you don’t even own the games. That’s sick capitalism in action, yet everybody kisses their ass.
EDIT for the Steam jerkers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0a7-qyjss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eiDhuvM6Y
Ah, yes, capitalism. Because they don’t have to pay to maintain servers and infrastructure or anything, right?
Nor do they pay for bandwidth when you download your 100gb game for the nth time in the past month.
Nor do they have a ton of functions and services for both devs and consumers like easy refunds, regional pricing, steam keys, trading cards, steam workshop, steam forums, chatrooms, remote play… just to name some.
Yeah, such moneygrabbing comic book villains that just sit in their pile of money and don’t provide anything good.
They are stacking billions. It means they are paying peanuts compared to what they are making.
I read somewhere most of the cost is payment providers, scams, chargebacks and refunds they can’t offload onto the publishers.
How does valve’s ass taste?
Delicious :)
Because somehow their competition is even worse
Honestly, I’ll probally care about this more when someone else tries to make a service remotely close to what steam provides. Hell epic is probally the closest we got and they are in the red AND lacking in function set that steam provides. Steam charges 30% up until 10m and then 25 till 50m then it’d 20% while giving a multitude of extra services the other companies charging similar rates don’t, seems fair to me.
some examples:
Looking into it, IGN made a nice picture (2019 though so a little old perhaps) so I’ll add that too
They provide an easy platform for me to buy games so I use them. The steam deck too. Just because they have a competent product, i don’t think that justifies any arse kissing. Like you say, they’re a company and they’re in business to make money.
Yeah, I can see why developers would be unhappy about the 30%. Maybe there’s an argument to be made that the platform gives these games a greater potential market but I don’t know enough about the business to try making that argument.
Why would I care about Valve taking a 30% cut when they’re the best platform around? You do realise what makes them the best platform, right?
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Exactly. Why would you care about anything else than you own selfish little ass? You do realize that you’ve been brainwashed by capitalism, right?
Brainwashed by capitalism!? Jesus, what world do you live in? XD
Clearly not one where paying for a good service is acceptable.
Good service is not taking 30% of the revenue on projects that took years to developp and create loot system to get kids addicted to gambling. Life must be so easy when you only care abour you and yourself.
Yes it is, if the service is actually… you know… good. Let’s see what Valve offers for its 30% cut:
Pro-consumer practices, such as:
Find me any platform or company that does all of these things. But I guess you want everything to be free and handed to you on a silver platter?
Lol, you steam fanboy are the biggest jerker on the Internet. You hate video games, what you want is “convenience” because the only thing you can think of is your ass. Let’s be clear, the very second Valve believe it can make more money by selling you buttplugs with Gabe’s face it instead of videogame, they will do it. They have less then 100 employees and take 1/3 of revenue from studios with thousand of employees and people like you will make 30 minutes to jerk them while spitting on those who makes the games. Gamers are the stupidest, most easily manipulatable loser on the planet.
Ok, so, read what you just wrote, carefully. And I do mean actually read what you wrote, because I do hope you will realise how much like a parody you sound like.
Lol fuck off “gamer”. Any point to make? I’m sure you believe you love music but only listen to it via Spotify lol.
I use to work in sound for videogames (did you ever had an actual job?) but the main reason I’ve quit his because of people like you who don’t give a fuck about actual studios. See what’s happening is that most talented people are leaving, the others are laid off and replace by generic AI bullshit that perfectly suits idiotic gamers. Meanwhile there’s more money in video game then ever was, but you people are killing the industry because you keep sucking a business that takes a third of the revenu for basically nothing. You suck, capitalism suck, one day steam will fuck you all the ass because it’s a soulless business and you will get what you deserve. Now go play something and watch Amongog or whaterver stupid youtuber you lioke.
Tim Sweeney, is that you?