Reddit beats film industry, won’t have to identify users who admitted torrenting::Court quashes subpoena for names of users who talked torrenting in 2011 thread.

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    I’ve never torrented anything, not even once. I always pay for things legitimately…no matter how hard it is to keep track of everything you’re paying for or how expensive it gets to pay the same movies again and again when the billion dollar corporations randomly decide I don’t own something I paid for all of a sudden. I never pirate anything.

    You should only use good VPNs that are lying about their no-logs policies like Nord, Express, Private internet access and surfshark. Never TorGuard or Mullvad. TorGuard and Mullvad actually had to prove in court that they don’t record their users. So they’re bad and immoral for not being cucks for the establishment.

    Definitely don’t get torguard’s proxy service to go with torguard. And definitely don’t use torguard’s proxy service inside of your torrenting client.

    Like I said I’ve never pirated anything in my entire life and I never will.

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    Nothing on Reddit can be proved to have come from a “user”, and it’s been that way since the “Great Spezzing of 2016”, where ‘spez’ admitted to falsification and alteration of ‘user’ content.

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    In the article, not one comment mentioned “piracy”. They only mention “torrenting” which is not illegal and has absolutely nothing to do with these movie companies. They are grasping at straws here

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      While I do not think they were in the right to have the users “unmasked”, my understanding is that the users in question were talking about how the Austin internet provider, Grande, was good for torrenting, so the attempt to unmask the users wasn’t meant to get the users in trouble but to show that Grande benefitted financially from a lax policy towards pirating, so them not mentioning piracy in their comments wasn’t necessarily the end of the conversation, if they were willing to say now that it was in reference to piracy. I do think it sounds like grasping at straws, but I imagine the potential value they were hoping to get from Grande was worth that grasping to them

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      Spez may still be a corporate sellout but at least in this instance he did the right thing, probably because he determined ratting out users who pirated wouldn’t make him money

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          I’m sure that this was his legal team that reacted and fought back. He must have a top legal representation, they don’t sleep.

          But the API stuff, that’s full him, that’s his idea - fuck “I’m pretty sure, I’m a great leader” spez

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        He didn’t do it for you, he didn’t do it for us. He did it for himself.

        If news got out that Reddit violated anonymity, the site would be dead before the end of the week. This was a move to protect his shareholders, nothing more.

    • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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      Could you elaborate on your response, as well as what the link in the comment you’re replying to is referencing.

      I know what ISOs are, I’m just wondering what the original comment is trying to tell us about and what you’re replying about. Thanks.

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    Lol

    Talking about torrenting… thats not even illegal. Lol.

    And its certainly not proof of anyone then actually breaking the law.

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    Serious question: Is admitting that you did something illegal in a conversation enough to be convicted of a crime? For example, if I say “I bought a small amount of weed from another kid at school and smoked it last year”, is my statement alone enough to convict me of a crime? To clarify, they don’t know a date, they don’t know a place, they don’t know who I bought it from, they don’t know how much I bought, or how much I smoked. They really don’t even know if it actually happened (sometimes people say things happened that didn’t actually happen, gasp).

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      No. You could claim to have murdered someone, and they may detain you for this for some time, but without evidence of a crime I don’t think they can charge you and definitely can’t convict you.

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        Jesus, your reply reminds me of an old Reddit/4chan post (can’t remember which, probably 4Chan) I read about on Reddit years ago about a guy who admitted to killing his wife. He posted images and described how he did it and where. I believe he ended up getting arrested the next day. There were people who were in the hometown it happened at, posting news articles and links to videos where they had seen it on the news.

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      My assumption was that they believed the users were actually the ISP trying to guerilla advertise and not actual users. Maybe I’m wrong though?

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      This is most likely civil law, not criminal. Criminal copyright infringement is harder to prove and generally has to be on a larger scale and for profit, depending on laws in your country.

      Is admitting to breaking a license agreement enough for a conviction if you say exactly which license, then probably, depending on circumstances and specific local laws. Is it enough if you just say you did it, no. The licenser needs to at least prove they were the ones you “harmed” or they have no standing to sue. But if they already have logs from your ISP, then it might still be useful evidence.

    • Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis@lemmy.world
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      You always need corroborating evidence to convict based solely on a confession. Does not have to be much, but uiu need some extra fact tying the person to the crime.

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      Well they can get your IP and spy on you so they can probably grab the where. Even the house hold you live in. Although they don’t even need your IP these days.all these capitalists are selling your information to everyone on a silver platter. So they already know exactly who you are. That part wasn’t the hard part.

      Maybe if they have a list of buyer suspects they can guess who is the seller in that region . As far as how much you bought, or how much you smoked, it really doesn’t matter. If it’s illegal, any amount is considered illegal.

      If you do lie it’s a really dumb lie that got you watched now. it’s also common that if someone guilty does something stupid like admit to something, they quickly say they were lying.

      So no, you’re not in the clear.

    • player2@lemmy.world
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      It’s possible to have an email address associated with your Reddit account which might provide names.

  • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
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    At least they have doxxed themselves:

    The film companies seeking Reddit users’ identities include After II Movie LLC, Bodyguard Productions, Hitman 2 Productions, Millennium Funding, Nikola Productions, Rambo V Productions, and Dallas Buyers Club LLC.