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Cake day: February 15th, 2025

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  • You’re not going to like this, but the facts bear out: Palestinian leaders are complicit in all of this. They could have accepted a peace deal under Clinton decades ago and they’d have their own country right now. Palestinians have caused trouble in Jordan, Egypt, and elsewhere, which is why Arab nations in the ME are sometimes nearly as wary and as restricted on borders as Israel.

    There are lots and lots of bad actors in Israel too, with Bibi chief among them. The USA, meanwhile, has typically done the bare minimum to restrain either side and has typically provided too much support IMO to Israel, ultimately enabling them.

    This is not a black and white issue that it often gets boiled down to, with offending camps believing they are 100% the victims/right while the otherside is 100% evil/aggressor.

    As for using violence, also keep in mind that if you throw punches, people will punch back. Picking a fight with a far, far more powerful force is going to result in you getting your ass kicked.

    While I abhor how heavily Israel obliterated Gaza, I can also tell you that it was the inevitable outcome once Hamas and their allies starting (allegedly)cooking babies in ovens and mass mudering peaceful concert goers.

    If someone going to use violence, understand that your opponents are going to use it too. Don’t throw a punch and then cry because you (not you specifically, but people generally) got your ass beat.



  • “They are the people with influence in the governments committing genocides.”

    And the civilians who are actually targeted are not the ones who can influence governments.

    And the attacks on the boats are not going to cause much damage to the billionaires. If the attacks reach the point that the billionaires are going to be hurt, the USA military will step in.

    The people actually shouldering must of the impact are innocent civilians, primarily from developing countries, who actually main the boats.

    We are the heroes of our own stories but, and I am sorry if this is rude, it’s straight up gross that you’re here trying to justify attacking neutral, innocent, largely unarmed, and financially constrained civilians.

    I really hope you can arrive at the point where you can look back on this and realize how messed up this position is.


  • Yeah, and it’s a shame that people, especially from developing countries, are forced into these situations due to economic realities.

    Stop mentioning the billionaires. They are not important in this conversation. They are not on the the ships, and the only impact these events have on them is pushing up insurance prices and other costs but even that is a drop in the bucket.

    And stop acting like you’re some sort of hero. Given your position, I highly doubt you actually care any more about these workers then then billionaires. Both you and them seem to be looking at 'em as disposable.