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If the community is on kbin that the kbin mod removes the spam. If the community is on lemmy instance than mod on lemmy instance removes spam.

Isn’t that how it works? The mod on the community instances removes the spam and then it gets removed on all sites right?

Likewise, mods on lemmy and kbin might lock comments on a post that’s getting toxic, but that lock doesn’t carry over to kbin, and they can’t do anything about it.

Wouldn’t a lock on a thread on that community’s site prevent any new comments from coming back to that site over the fediverse?

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I too dropped all my subscriptions to beehaw groups way back when I realized they are problematic.

but it seems to be a nightmare to moderate across platforms and instances,

Nobody needs to moderate across platforms and instances. Just moderate your own community, on your own site. Power is decentralized by design.

Just found out it’s possible to ban users

It’s not, really. Just make a different account. The key advantage of fediverse is that you can never be banned from a group and have it stick.

“well I just deleted my 15+ year account with quintillion karma.”

Your account only had a quintillion karma? My account had a sextillion karma.

Usenet used to be where it was at for conversation on the Internet. Then it moved. Getting people to go back to Usenet is probably going to be as hard as spinning up a Facebook competitor.

It is purely a matter of free public servers. Right now, the free public servers are almost all Fedverse. But they could just as easily be Usenet servers. If the free Fedverse servers close like free Usenet servers did, then Fedverse will also decline. But Usenet actually has some superior features that Fedverse lacks (e.g. automatic merging of groups), so if free Usenet servers pop back up, it would take off again.

Asking someone to download and install a Usenet client then set it up to connect to a server of their choice and then subscribing to newsgroups is way above and beyond what most people are willing to do in 2023, sadly.

This is not true at all. People download phone clients all the time. And there were also Usenet web clients. Subscribing to newsgroups is exactly the same as subscribing to subreddets or kbin magazines. And you have to pick a server for Fedverse also, but the the Usenet server doesn’t matter at all like a Fedverse server does.

The only reason people don’t use Usenet is because the free servers disappeared and ISPs no longer provided it with your internet service.