Authorities shot a man after they say he fired shots at a Jewish school in Memphis, Tennessee, Monday afternoon.
I bet I can guess who he voted for.
Hint: The fat guy.
Taft?
Of course. Who else?
It’s funny-sad to me that Taft was known for being obese, but compared to modern people, if you saw him on the street today, you wouldn’t even think twice.
I saw a guy so large riding in a chevy pickup yesterday that he was listing the truck
Bruh this man is not obese, he’s just slightly larger than usual what the hell
Compared to other people of the day, he was pretty large, though not morbidly obese. It’s really a comment on modern people that this is considered slightly larger than usual.
Might be the angle, but his ass looks wider than his shoulders. I don’t know of a medical term for such a thing, but he looks rotund for his time.
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This is a big win for doors nationwide
I remember sitting in a college cattle class of 200+ students and the only thing on my mind was how that room needed more than one door.
There is no way a 200 capacity room had one door. Surely that would be a fire code violation. The other doors are probably kind of hidden so people don’t leave out them on the regular.
“Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis said, “I am proud of the vigilant and quick response of MPD officers who mitigated a potential mass shooting situation today.””
I feel like the cops are giving themselves too much credit here. Mitigating the potential mass shooting event to me means preventing the shooter from shooting at the school… I mean good on them for catching him quickly though, that is good work and I try to give credit where it’s due despite generally not appreciating cops, but mitigating the attack is not what they did there…
At least by my layman definitions. Does mitigate mean something else in cop talk?
I guess they could be saying there was potential of him going somewhere else and doing a mass shooting there, so maybe that’s what they mean?
Mitigating doesn’t mean you prevented it from happening. I would say mitigate is a reasonable word for exactly what they did.
That’s fair, but then in this context, how does mitigating apply?
Is it because they made it less severe somehow? Or this is just from a pure risk assessment standpoint? As in, they mitigated a potential threat to the public?
Ok, yeah I think that last one makes sense if that’s what you’re meaning. (I think my issue may be pedantic af but this is what it looks like when I’m intentionally trying to not be a definition stickler lol)
Based on what I read, they mitigated the situation by shooting the guy outside which resulted in zero injuries inside the school, rather than doing an Uvalde where the shooter was given free reign to continue shooting.
They shot the guy far away from the school, after they identified the car… They did nothing to mitigate the school situation, that was 100% the school worker who did the mitigating by somehow not letting this person in. The mitigation happening in this story does happen, but the cops aren’t the ones doing it, and then taking credit for it is weird, is what I’m trying to get at.
Though let me go read it again, it sounds like you and I almost read different articles…
Yeah, no, the cops weren’t at the school until well after shots were fired.
In a letter to families, obtained by CNN affiliate WHBQ on Monday, the Margolin Hebrew Academy said the suspect tried to enter their school, had a “brief confrontation” with a contract worker and fired two shots from the gun he was carrying, “while retreating from this worker.”
A short time later, Memphis police officers found a vehicle matching the description and stopped the driver. The suspect got out of the truck with a gun in his hand and was shot by an officer, Crowe said.
It’s no Uvalde for sure but this is… Just weird behavior on the cop’s part, I don’t understand it tbh. It’s splitting hairs but I still don’t like them patting themselves on the back using those words because that’s not what happened…
But like my opinion on how mitigation the word should be used, ultimately, this doesn’t matter. Good job to the cops, thank goodness the kids are safe, and hopefully one day I’ll figure out how to be more chill about shit that doesn’t really matter lol
I’m so sick of seeing the Nazi nutcase violence problem framed as a way to take away the guns I have because of the Nazi nutcase violence problem.
Can we fucking deal with the actual issue with mass shooters? It’s not guns. It’s not mental health. It’s fucking Nazis.
Its guns
Not sure if this is a good idea but as a european I found this American debate to be one of the most ideological and shocking from both sides. Of course guns alone don’t cause that, Swizerland and Finnland have tons of them in private hands but they have some kind of social system. It’s all of your insanity, from the mental health over total poverty to fucking easy access to really fucking dangerous guns, there is no easy answer because none of this is good and all of it causes violance!
Also Switzerland and Finland have strict control over ammunition, and also have compulsary military service to instill the discipline required to handle and use guns responsibly, unlike the US where you get a discount if you have a mental disorder diagnosis (exaggeration).
Also, socialised healthcare and mental health services.
Also, lesser paranoia and fear of law enforcement.
Yep, it’s a unholy coctail that causes the situation in the US and more dangerous weapons can definitely make it worse but blaiming guns for everything won’t solve the issue ether! :/
…military service to instill the discipline required to handle and use guns responsibly…
What, like some kind of well regulated militia?
I don’t think this one was a Nazi.
Dude, there are other countries with fascists and they don’t have mass shootings the way we do. The only honest answer is guns.
They use bombs and knives instead!
Or ask Norway if they use guns, too.
Defensive gun uses outnumber illegal gun uses. I should get shot? Wait for the police to never arrive because of my neighborhood? Wait for them to shoot me because they got confused and get a medal for it?
Y’all are really good (bad) at pointing out the problem but your solution always ends up being, “send armed goons into people’s houses to make sure they got rid of their property we don’t like.”
You know how many countries have a fuck load of guns and like almost no fascist death brigades? Fucking most of them. The fact that we have 1.1 guns instead of .6 per person does not, in fact, explain gun violence when the exact same percentage of the country owns guns.
There can be more than one problem with our nation at a time.
We have a gun problem, but we also have a fascist problem. There a different solutions to both, neither of which have to be as hyperbolic as you claim.
I’m a gun owner myself. I got my first gun when I was 13 and was taught how to properly care for it and use it.
I enjoy shooting guns as a hobby. I have taken dozens of friends shooting over the years and taught them how to properly enjoy firearms.
But we as a nation have a gun problem.
The solution isn’t some wild, absolute ban in all guns. There are plenty of simple, common sense solutions that can move us into a healthier place. There are plenty of loopholes that can be closed, better, mandatory background checks, removing weapons from those who commit domestic violence, cooling off periods, mandatory gun safes, etc…
I have seen so many wildly irresponsible gun owners on ranges and private property. I’ve seen people walk onto live ranges, loaded weapons pointed at other people, I’ve nearly been shot myself by a dumb kid with a .22.
When I say we have a gun problem, I don’t want to just strip everyone’s guns away. I want to look at the real problems and work to ensure that the easiest flaws are dealt with.
If gun safes were mandatory, it could save countless children who die playing with their parents firearms. If domestic abusers had to surrender firearms, countless partners and spouses would still be alive today.
Don’t want to lose your guns? Don’t beat your wife. It’s not complicated. I don’t trust someone who casually employs violence against loved ones to responsibly use a firearm.
Mandatory education to even use a firearm, just like a concealed carry, would go a long way to help out. We license people to drive cars, why can’t we expect at least that same, bare minimum for guns? CDs
no, you think they use knives instead because homicides are so much rarer there that knife attacks are much bigger news. The US has more knife violence than those countries too.
Think for a second how defensive gun use could possibly outnumber offensive use. What are they defending against if there isn’t also offensive gun use? You pulled this stat completely out of thin air like all your opinions on guns.
Youve never heard anyone suggest to send in armed goons to get rid of property.
There’s only one country with a fuck load of guns, the US, and it has a ton of police homicides.
It’s a multifaceted issue, absolutely, and in that you’re partially correct. Guns, though, provide the means to cause as many and as high numbered mass shootings.
So, let’s take a multifaceted approach and: implement common sense gun control measures to make it more challenging for civilians (who are very specifically not a ‘well organized militia’) to purchase weapons of this kind; let’s implement better social medicine programs that include mental health services; and let’s also address class warfare, racism, sexism, and attacks on the LGBTQ, minority, and immigrant communities and the degradation of the separation of church and state (which is extremely in favor of the Christian religion instead of recognizing that our population is multi-religion and/or degrees of agnostic or atheist).
The system as it is is built to continue to either break us or cause strife at our level… so that they can continue to keep run our rights into the ground to the benefit of their wallets.
Don’t ignore the means by which a thing happens merely to address the causes, especially in bad faith so as to redirect the message in favor of protecting your outdated and misinterpreted ‘Right to Bear [sic] Arms’ over other’s Right to fucking live without being shot by a nutjob.
Edit: I am a gun owning liberal who is also in the armed forces. Just to provide some background to my above statements.
…who is also in the armed forces.
Take your “As a Veteran…” argument and cram it. I’ve seen more ignorant POGs running that line to get internet credit than I care to remember. Your opinion carries no more weight than anyone else’s and that most definitely includes regular civilians.
Wow, dude (or dudette). You’re seriously jumping to conclusions there. But, you’ve absolutely shown your cards as being a troll here in the discussion. Thank you for taking the time to clarify your position.
If you didn’t want to be insulted you shouldn’t have been insulting…Sir. Interfacing with the public should have been covered somewhere in your ROTC program.
So what? Add another question to the background check “are you a Nazi?” because the “are you a terrorist?” question should already take care of that one, so it seems to be working really well.
What about how I can just gift a gun to a family member? Or maybe how no one has followed up on me since I’ve purchased a gun, maybe I’m a crackpot now. People change.
Responsible gun ownership is impossible to enforce, sure my shit is locked up in a safe, but no one knows that and it isn’t required. No one comes around to check that it is safely secured, no one comes around to check that I haven’t fallen down a QAnon conspiracy rabbit hole, no one comes around to check that I’m mentally sound and don’t have any anger problems.
Ammo sales aren’t tracked either, so sure I have a reasonable amount of ammo but I could have enough to cause serious problems as no one would know.
So really this comes down to two solutions right? Take away guns, or spend a fuck ton of money to regulate sales, registration, send therapists to people’s homes to evaluate their mental health periodically, track ammo sales, install biometrics on guns so that only the owner can fire it and as evidence of when the gun goes off who must have shot, install trackers and sensors on gun safes to feed information back to the government to know how often a gun is safely locked away and when it’s not where it is… Etc honestly.
And again, I’m a gun owner.
Ammo sales aren’t tracked either…
They are in California, have been since 2019.
Cool, one state. Certainly not federally, which just means you can go to another state and have it not tracked. It’s certainly not tracked in SC where I live, sure that’s across the country but pick a border state of California and have it not be a tracked sale. We’re back to the problem.
