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    Some day, we’ll have a technology sub that isn’t polluted with Twitter “news”.

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      It’s a tech company that is burning itself to a ground. Hard to take your eyes off of a slow moving car crash.

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        Never understood why we call them tech companies to be honest. There is nothing technologically interesting at twitter. And if there is… it is never the subject.

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          If I remember, tech companies are generally those whose primary products are digitally based. And technology these days has essentially become synonymous woth the internet.

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          So I think the main thing is scale—they’re tech companies (in the category they’re in) because of the engineering required to build & maintain something that operates at the scale they do

          And IMO at least in the early years it was pretty impressive what Twitter was capable of in terms of technology.

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      This is a bit of a learning experience though.

      The big tech companies advocated during 2020 that they were not biased and should not be held responsible for policing the Internet.

      Since then, FB swapped to Meta to cover up the documents showing FB is intentionally causing psychological damage our children because it gives them more clicks/view time.

      OpenAI scraped the Internet, legally and illegally to power ChatGPT.

      Twitter, a social media company known for free speech, was bought by Musk, a former Trump associate. Trump was reinstated during this period and dissent was banned.

      Google decided to push web DRM to force us to use their software or else we can’t access the Internet.

      Sounds like they very much want to police the Internet. We just aren’t putting the pieces together in a collective way.

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        OpenAI scraped the Internet, legally and illegally to power ChatGPT.

        I’m not a huge OpenAI fan, but it’s not yet been determined that they acted illegally. I believe the matter is still being pursued in court.

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          I think people are too focused on the scraping, which is clearly not illegal, but is what the roch people who own the websites are hollering about because they wanted to make money off of selling the posted content they did not actually own

          Open AI’s implementation of image creation in the style of a particular artist using copyrighted works is going to be the big outcome.

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            Illegally, maybe. Immorally, probably not. It’s fine for a human to read something and learn from it, so why not an algorithm? All of the original content is diluted into statistics so much that the source material does not exist in the model. They didn’t hack any databases, they merely use information that’s already available for anyone to read on the internet.

            Honestly, the real problem is not that OpenAI learned from publicly available material, but that something trained on public material is privately owned.

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              but that something trained on public material is privately owned.

              Is that really a problem? Is a create something new based on public knowledge, should I not be able to profit from it?

              I learn to paint from YouTube, should I paint for free now?

              I’ll admit that the scope of ChatGPT is MUCH bigger than one person painting.

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                I’d say that was a more controversial opinion. From a purist perspective I tend to believe that intellectual property in general is not ethical and stifles innovation.

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      On Reddit I’ve found most of the news about the big social networks is posted by only handful accounts, they also don’t post other interesting things, so you can just block them.

      I’m hoping that’ll work on Lemmy as well.

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        I haven’t seen an option to block people here on Lemmy. I’m a new migrant (12+ years on reddit, nuked to oblivion), so maybe I just haven’t seen the option yet. But i did look for a quick second before posting this reply, to no avail.

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          People tend to call everything fediverse “Lemmy” which causes some confusion.

          Kbin has the options to block people, magazines/communities, and entire instances. Hopefully Lemmy will get the block feature because it is awesome for the few times it is needed.

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              Can you also block communities/magazines and instances on Lemmy now?

              I probably grouped the three together when it was one or two of those levels.

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                Yes, you can block communities. Instances are a little more complicated since that’s defederation and happens at the instance level, but since you won’t see posts from communities you aren’t subbed to that’s less of an issue.

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                  I have seen posts from instances with communities I’m not subbed to on the kbin “All” list because someone else on the same kbin server subbed to it. It makes discovering new communities very easy since I don’t need to do all the leg work on my own.

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                You can block communities and users on Lemmy. You can’t block instances, but that wouldn’t make sense since you don’t see their content unless you go there or subscribe to a community. Maybe blanket blocking users from an instance would be useful.

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                  Not sure if Lemmy is the same, but my understanding of the fediverse structure was that if someone subbed to a magazine/community on another instance then it would show up in All for everyone logged into the same instance. On kbin I have never needed to sub to anything on lemmy.world or beehaw or whatever because someone else subbed to it first and it just shows up on my All feed.

                  A mild example of blocking an instance would be if there was one that was entirely in a language I don’t know then I have the option to block the instance instead of playing whack a mole with each magazine/community to hide the content that I can’t read.

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                    On Lemmy you only see local communities by default. On Mastodon you see posts from instances that the admin linked. Idunno about kbin etc