cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/81940
There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.
Garbage cars, garbage software, garbage ceo.
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“Poorly designed, partially functional software running with substandard hardware and subpar implementation designed by overextended engineers and burnt-out developers led by known megalomaniac malfunctions, local man astonished.”
More transparency in your version of the headline than there will ever be in any of Elon’s dealings! Ever!
I’m not sure any car company could make me feel comfortable about using a full auto feature.
I think the only way it can realistically work within the next decade is if all road construction is diligently recorded into a database and correct paths are predetermined and checked.
Thing is, I’m sure there’s literally millions of km of road across a country where the road designs only exist in a cad drawing, or some realllly old drawing, or not at all.
So basically, won’t happen this decade :P
Or ya know, build more autonomous vehicles that use tracks, like trains, or busses on predetermined routes.
Or build more trains that are reliable and come often enough and eliminate the need for cars in many areas and so significantly reduce the area needed to be mapped.
That site is thoroughly enshitified:
I love having uBlock Origin on my mobile browser
Use firefox browser
Install ublock origin
I’m not sure there is even a video on that shitty site.
There is.
Maybe it’s regional? I even tried to disable my adblocker. still nothing.
Why would you go to a site like that without an ad blocker?
You should get an ad blocker. I use Wipr on my iOS devices, it works very well. No ads when I open that page.
This is why I run Firefox with uBlock origin and won’t change to iOS. All my family has this, and they wouldn’t change.
And FSD was going to be delivered in 2018, 2019, 2020, just around the corner.
Glad I never paid for that option when it was 5K not to mention the ludicrous 15K they want for it now.
How are you liking driving Tesla, the build, interior etc.? I’ve heard they’re great at first but then the novelty wears off and you start noticing the shortcomings.
I’ll never get FSD until 3rd parties confirm it does just that. I don’t see it happening for another 20 years. But Auto-Pilot, that thing is life changing, IMO. Highway trips are so much better and now that I’ve owned an EV for the last 4 years, I’m never going back to gas. I think Tesla’s are actually great cars, if you get a decent built one. There’s a reason they’re selling over a million a year now.
Another big complaint I hear is having to do all sorts of necessary things on the touch screen while driving is a huge distraction.
I’ve had mine for 9mo. Still enjoying it. 0-60 in under 4 seconds never gets old for me. Summon is still great, and the looks on people’s faces when a car shows up with no one driving it is always hilarious.
The software sucks, it always has sucked, and it’s always going to suck. The cameras are in the wrong place, there isn’t enough compute available, and the jitter in distance/size measurement because of non-existent stereoscopic cameras means there’s no hope for real depth measurement.
People got ripped off for $15k for this crap.
Musk also refuses to use LIDAR for who knows what reason.
Ego. Pure and simple, it’s ego at this point. At first it was being cheap, but now he can’t go back on the foolish things he said without needing to retrofit every single vehicle ever produced.
Elon’s motto: “Move fast and break stuff.”
In this case, stuff may mean people, property, laws, take your pick.
Por que no los tres?
If anyone is searching for an easier way to the videos:
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Lmao car can’t tell the difference between a green light facing the other road and the red light facing it.
Don’t buy American cars. Americans don’t know how to make good cars.
We used to make cars that at least looked cool but now we just make white featureless piles of shit
yeah but at least they’re fucking BIG
I’m a big fan of my Ford Escape PHEV.
Corporations only have incentive to suppress results that don’t help them. This is why unless some third party evaluator (such as a gov agency) should be recieving automotive data separately for evaluation.
Car companies could easily send encrypted camera data to a third party data holder that both the client and company can decrypt - this would prevent the goverment from decrypting this data en mass - and when the car violates a law or crashes it could be decrypted by either party.
My thinking is similar, as long as these type of systems - which can directly kill the public - are developed by purely commercial interests with no oversight, they will always do the minimum safety measures to get the $. For some reason a car plowing into people is more palatable than a plane crashing out of the sky.
I’m not an “Elon simp,” and the idea that owning a Tesla means I support him is absurd. Most of you order things on Amazon, but we don’t run around calling you “Bezos simps.”
Nevertheless, I just want to note that I’ve used FSD for about 9 months now. Maybe I’m just the “lucky one,” but I’ve only ever have it so something I didn’t expect/want once in that period, which was when I was using it at night and it seemed to have gotten confused about a turning lane vs the highway.
I just recently used it to drive from Worcester to Boston Logan, and I didn’t have to handle the wheel at all until I took over to pull it into the parking garage. Frankly, it works incredibly well for me. Your mileage may vary.
“It’s ok because it didn’t happen to me”
No, what I said is, “my general experience has been good, but I understand that may not be the general experience of the technology.”
Thanks for posting. Be warned, that cross-post link is NOT the same post. Definitely NSFW.
to be fair, that light was in a weird position and I might have been just as confused if its an area i’m not familiar with. but we should expect better also.
A human being that is uncertain slows down and drives more cautiously until understanding what they’re dealing with. This thing does not.
At least you understand that you’re confused and can react accordingly. A machine has no capability of knowing it’s confused and instead goes full throttle into a situation it doesn’t not understand.
I’d rather take my chances with a human, at least humans can think.
This guy went kinda crazy after getting fired and started fabricating situations and claiming the car is doing stuff that was actually caused by him. Whatever your inclined to believe don’t base it on what this guy does or says.
