• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    And yet you have prominent Liberal Governors like Newsom telling cities they can’t have state funding if they don’t go after the homeless.

    The conservatives aren’t doing this on their own, not in deep blue regions. You can’t just hand waive away the Democrats doing this.

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      Sorry but you got a shit take on the situation. I have worked on a homeless task force for years. Guess who wants to solve the problem and who wants to send it away.

      Are we all to blame for homelessness to some degree. Probably. Are the liberals the same or even close to as cruel as conservatives, fuck no.

      While blaming sides may seem a weak move to you. Take it from someone who is still fighting the fight for homeless rights. You can’t compare the two and your just coming across as disingenuous.

      Oh and thanks for the laugh about Newsom being a liberal governor. By any measure he is the most moderate liberal around. Hell his election slogan was fucking social liberal fiscal watchdog. He openly admits capital is just as important as human rights.

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        9 months ago

        What do you think a liberal is? I didn’t claim he was progressive or anything leftist.

        I’m sitting here watching city council after city council enact homeless bans after the SCOTUS ruling, no matter who they say they are. And I’m supposed to take your word that special, far enough left, Democrats don’t support this? No. I’m not going to ignore the evidence right in front of my eyes. What’s happening on homelessness in this country is disgusting.

        And if I’m coming across as disingenuous, what must you be with the “No True Scotsman” fallacy towards anti-homeless Democrats?

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          Well if the liberals consider you a moderate then perhaps that is saying something. I think we can agree he is a poor example.

          You can believe whatever you want. You are clearly passionate about this topic which is good. Look at the people in communities pushing for this. It is always the business every time and the solution is to always push them out.

          You need to turn your anger towards those that are causing the problem. Your arguments the liberals are either A complacent or B accomplices both have some truth to them. This isn’t the problem though.

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            9 months ago

            Liberals and conservatives absolutely have different ideologies. People won’t stop voting for liberals until we correctly assign blame to them rather than pass it off as a conservative thing.

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        9 months ago

        Please stop making up definitions for words that already have them. Liberalism has always been pro capitalist. Neo liberal specifically refers to complete deregulation of the market, abolishing the income tax, and getting rid of social welfare programs like SSI and Medicare.

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            9 months ago

            No. Just no.

            They share a couple goals. They are not the same thing. And if you want to describe Neo Liberalism so broadly as to mean all American politicians who aren’t Socialist then you’re just spreading misinformation at that point. Usually this is some stupid take from tankies.

            Go look it up. Because Maggoty class time is over. I’ve spent enough time today on this already.