Sir Richard Moore and Bill Burns did not list examples but there has been a spate of mysterious sabotage and arson attacks on infrastructure in the UK, Germany and in the Baltics.

Sir Richard Moore and Bill Burns did not list examples but there has been a spate of mysterious sabotage and arson attacks on infrastructure in the UK, Germany and in the Baltics.

Russia is waging a “reckless campaign of sabotage” across Europe, the heads of MI6 and the CIA have warned in their first-ever joint remarks.

Sir Richard Moore and Bill Burns also said the UK and the US faced an “unprecedented array of threats”, and said the entire world order was under the most serious strain since the Cold War.

In a newspaper article, the spymasters pointed to Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, while also describing China as “the principal intelligence and geopolitical challenge of the 21st century”.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      Guessing they are talking about it more loudly now to try to redirect the rising anti-conservative sentiment before it threatens the status quo.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 years ago

          From my perspective, things have shifted in recent years. In the past, there seemed to be a general consensus that both the right and left were interested in building a system that benefited society at large, they just disagreed on what that looked like. Seems like more and more people are realizing that all conservatives want to conserve is their power and access to wealth.

          It’s also becoming more apparent that even conservative social issues aren’t intended to improve anything for anyone but are just about controlling people and making them more vulnerable. Like it’s no longer a secret that the drug war was more about racism than public health. The abortion ban and their plans for divorce laws are clearly about making women either more dependent on men or unable to leave them if they can’t prove fault.

          All that plus the red wave that was supposed to take over Europe didn’t.

          It’s too early to tell for sure and it might just be the pendulum swinging this way before it swings back that way. It could also be more of a reaction to the far right than conservatism in general, since the far right has seized so much control over conservative political groups. But I do hope that this sentiment sticks.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      People around me still look at me like I’m wearing a tinfoil hat when I point out the obvious facts.

          • wurzelgummidge@lemmy.worldEnglish
            45·
            2 years ago

            The bots job us to assert that only sources that follow approved narratives are reliable. It even insists that CIA propaganda network Radio Free Asia and its siblings are unbiased and trustworthy.

            Rule 3: Sources that have (what it considers) a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.

            italics mine

          • ms.lane@lemmy.worldEnglish
            47·
            2 years ago

            Apparently unless the bot is completely anti-Semitic and calls for the death of Israel, it’s Israeli biased.

            • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              43·
              2 years ago

              The ‘methodology’ for rating biases that it uses is little more than one person’s opinion which means it is necessarily biased.

                • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  42·
                  2 years ago

                  Yes it is. It’s literally “pick a few numbers between 0 and 10 then take the average”, mate. Can you really say it’s a robust methodology? Hey, if unbiased was something on offer I’d gladly take it but it’s simply not possible. MBFC does nothing but add another bias into the mix.

    • pandapoo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      20·
      2 years ago

      Doesn’t mean they’re wrong, just that they also engage in a similar activities, albeit with different targets and objectives.

      Still, not sure how relevant that is to mention when the subject being reported on is active FSB/GRU operations.

      • hark@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        2 years ago

        Spy agencies calling adversary countries bad is a given. They didn’t even bother to list examples, it’s just a “Russia bad and also China bad btw” article, so they’re not even reporting on active FSB/GRU operations, just that they exist, which again, is a given and is also a given for western agencies. How does this qualify as news?

  • gcheliotis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    553·
    2 years ago

    In the meantime, the most damaging act of sabotage that we know of on European ground was perpetrated (it seems) by Ukrainians. Many were pointing the finger in Russia’s direction when that happened, even if it didn’t make much sense. Just saying, we shouldn’t take spooks at their word, you never quite know who is really behind covert attacks on infrastructure. At best we, the general public, can speculate. It usually takes a hell of a long time for any serious investigation to take place, if that is even going to be conclusive.

    • Valmond@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      2 years ago

      Lol good riddance of that nordstream pipeline, and also it was, probably, the russians shooting themselves in the foot, you russ-bot.