In South Korea, 69 percent of adult smartphone users use a Samsung device, while only 23 percent use iPhones, a Gallup survey of 1,001 adults found. But the survey reveals a starkly different trend in one demographic: younger millennials and Gen Z. Among the younger generation, aged 18 to 29, iPhone’s share rises to 65 percent, double the Samsung's 32 percent, the survey found. This represents a 13 percent...
    • Redredme@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      2 years ago

      Here I am, on my first Samsung ever, being happy that stuff just works again. (like it did on my Huawei, long, long ago)

      Ymmv.

      • Virkkunen@kbin.social
        15·
        2 years ago

        The rule of thumb for comments like OP’s is that either they’ve last used a Samsung phone back in TouchWiz days and still think that the software and hardware are the same, or they’ve never used a Samsung phone and just hopped on the Samsung-hating bandwagon for internet points.

        Either way screams of Pixel fanboyism and gatekeeping

        • Chariotwheel@kbin.social
          6·
          2 years ago

          I am using a Samsung right now, I’ve been using Samsungs since I used smartphones. And that’s way too long, because the bloatware got worse every time I got a new one. I will use this until breaks, but as things stand, I won’t get another Samsung.

    • mpa92643@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      I had the Samsung Note 2 back in the day. I installed a custom bootloader and OS that worked fantastically. I had GPS issues, and all the guides I read said I have to reinstall Samsung’s OS, get a GPS fix, then reinstall my custom OS.

      I made the mistake of installing a newer version of the Samsung OS which installed Knox and locked down my bootloader. I was now locked into an old, insecure Android version with no possibility of ever upgrading because Samsung abandoned it.

      From that day on, I vowed never to buy another Samsung product again. Screw them and their anti-choice bullshit.

    • d3Xt3r@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      I’ve always been a Stock Android fanboi, but I really wanted to buy a foldable, so got myself a Galaxy Fold 4 last year. This is the first Samsung I’ve owned after decades - my last one being a Galaxy S2. I removed all bloat (including crap like Bixby) using Universal Android Debloater, and using a custom launcher, OneUI stays out of the way for the most part. I don’t really miss stock Android. With my current setup, there’s no performance issues, no TouchWiz bugs/annoyances like in the old days, everything’s running pretty smoothly.

      In saying that, ideally I’d love to unlock the bootloader and run LineageOS on it, but there’s no build out for it yet (and unlikely there will be one for a long time), also, I’m not sure if I want to play the whole SafteyNet cat-and-mouse game again. Shizuku works great for apps that need higher privileges, I use Droidify and open-source apps where possible, life is good.

    • soviettaters@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Yeah Samsung sucks. I am never going to leave Android so if I want a decent lower-midrange phone I have to stick with Motorola.

    • khajimak@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Last Samsung I had was the Galaxy s8, it was such a piece of shit I switched to an iPhone and am never going to buy another Samsung product in my life.

    • RheingoldRiver@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      I’ve had Samsung phones for years and their software on my current phone has had me thinking I might switch to an iPhone whenever I upgrade (hopefully not soon), so, yeah. It was not this bad 10 years ago.

    • BlitzFitz @lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      I mean, phones hand so much space now. Does it matter?

      I know I can root and get rid of stupid apps, but like I just downloaded sent movie or Playlist I needed for a two week trip without any issue on space on my fold 4. So… why does the extra crap layer these days.

      Early days, I’d root as my phone degraded over time. Now… why bother

  • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    40·
    2 years ago

    Look at the size the 10% bar is in the 40-49 graph. Then the 6% bars in the 50-59 graph. Then look at the size of the 9% bar in the 60-69 graph. And then the Other bar (8%) in the 70+ graph.

    Then go backup and look at the LG and Other bars (8% total) in the top graph. Whoever made this graphic is either intentionally misleading or just plain dumb.

    Edit: The 78%, 80%, an 85% bars are also all exactly the same size. It just gets worse the longer you look at it.

    • vvvvv@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Yea, it’s strange - top to bottom rows sum up to 94, 100, 92, 94, 100, 100

  • hark@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    2 years ago

    I’ve used samsung for all of my smartphones until my latest (when I switched to oneplus), but it’s still an android phone. No way would I switch to ultra-locked-down apple.

    • hismajesty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      Ye oneplus is great you just need a dns to block those chinese queries over vpn for example because it wont allow you to change the dns manually. (op8)

      • vzq@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        I’m an Apple person, but for customizability you can’t beat a google pixel with an unlocked boot loader. You can literally run anything you want.

  • leekleak@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    2 years ago

    Not much of a surprise, at least to me. Granted, my knowledge of the place is limited, but from what I’ve heard they really care about symbols of status (Fancy watches, jewelry, and, of course, expensive phones). Add that to the fact that kids nowdays aren’t as patriotic (a good thing imo) and care less about local brands and the fact that tech literacy is not great either… Well it puts thing in perspective.

      • leekleak@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, sorry if I came out harsh. In all honesty I am just frustrated by the incredible growth of Apple. It really confuses me how with such a tight ecosystem and anti-consumer practices they have managed to attain such mindshare that it’s not even funny. And I am saying all that despite this very comment being sent out of an iPhone.

  • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    2 years ago

    There was a time where Samsung flagships had features that iPhone didn’t. Samsung slowly stripped their phones of these features.

    If you don’t need an android platform, and aren’t after a foldable, there’s a lot less of an argument to be made to be on Samsung these days.

  • kamen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    2 years ago

    A bit weird to see LG in the charts (given that they’re out of the smartphone industry now) and yet none of the other big manufacturers (Xiaomi, Huawei, Google).

    • miseducator@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      The brands you mentioned aren’t widely available in Korea. Since LG left the market, all the carriers, to my knowledge, only offer Apple or Samsung devices.

      Source: I’ve lived in SoKo for a long time.

      • kamen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        Thanks for the insight. Is what you’re saying that there you can only buy a phone through a carrier?

        • miseducator@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          You can buy unlocked phones of other brands like Google or Xiaomi on the Korean equivalent of Amazon (Coupang), but they’re substantially more expensive. I’d bet you can get Chinese brands at the little mom and pop shops that cater to Chinese students and immigrants.

  • Vuipes@kbin.social
    3·
    2 years ago

    The majority of youngsters will always pick a fashion brand (apple). However, the majority of them cannot afford it.

  • kommarihipsteri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    Anyone with common sense prefers iPhone over stock rom Samsung.

    Samsung’s software is bloated with preinstalled crap. The software is not optimized, so even new the phones have major stutters frequently.

    And don’t get me started on the OTA updates. Those take a year to complete.

    I love android because I can use FOSS software and I have more freedom when using it. But if I had to choose between a Galaxy and an iPhone, I’d pick the latter.

    • Sarcastik@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      This is the argument someone makes who hasn’t used a flagship Samsung device in at least 5 years.

      One UI is one of my favorite OS’s and usually has features months if not years before stock Android. I get OTA updates every month like clockwork and have even had beta versions of new Android OSs before Pixel users. I’m typing on a Fold 4 and my user experience is somehow smoother than when I purchased it. You cannot say the same for a Pixel or iPhone.

  • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    I’ve dealt with Samsung as the developer of a large app. They will pre-install your app on new phones if you pay them, which I think is pretty seedy. It’s also not very good for the dev because who knows if anyone will ever launch your preinstalled app. Samsung even claimed not to know. So we had no idea what we’d be paying for. Samsung’s Galaxy app store is also a totally laughable mess, far inferior to Google Play and AppStore in functionality. It even has spelling mistakes 😖

    However I’ll keep doing business with Samsung. They’re just janky and it’s not surprising that users think they’re just as janky as I do.

    Now Huawei…fuck Huawei. They created a big work mess for me by networking their way to a high ranking executive at our company and then telling them our app was “broken on millions of Huawei phones.” They made it sound like a bug in our code. But here’s what it actually was:

    Trump banned Huawei from doing business in the US due to their ties to the Chinese Communist Party. This meant Huawei had to stop using some very core Android code libraries, since Google is an American company and couldn’t allow use of those libraries. So Huawei whipped up their own replacements to these libraries, but developers basically need to customize and republish their app specially for Huawei.

    So because they got in trouble with Trump, Huawei needed all devs to rewrite their apps for Huawei phones. Instead of being honest about this, they got me in trouble, convincing an executive that something was wrong with our app. They generously offered to meet with our tech team and “help us fix it.”

    I met with them, and once I understood what they were doing, I told them to get fucked. Then I wrote up a memo about what happened and let our executive leaders know that we wouldn’t be on Huawei phones ever again, going forward.

    Samsung’s not THAT bad. Not even close.

  • gunpachi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 years ago

    2 months ago I bought a regular samsung galaxy s23 and it’s been running great so far. I expected MIUI levels of bloat, but surprisingly it is not that bad.

    I had to disable a few samsung apps and for the most part, the phone stays out of my way and lets me do whatever i want.

    I wish the s23 lineup gets good custom rom support. Would love to run a lean LineageOS / any AOSP based rom with MicroG on this phone.

  • alphacyberranger@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 years ago

    If you can’t uninstall the bloatware, just disable it in settings. I have been doing that and works perfectly fine. And then I put all the bloatware into a single folder in the launcher and voila, it’s a clean experience. Stock android is the best, the next best thing is OneUI in my experience.