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        Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?

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          The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden’s career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.

          https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html

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            They’re not correct at all lol

            Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.

            Biden has literally always been a stand up guy

            Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is… An interesting take, to say the least.

            Maybe don’t get your news from rags

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            He _is_the progressive ally that we need now.

            It’s unfortunate he was not perfect in the past, but he’s changed and making amends. Why do Republicans have an issue with that?

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              Progressive ally? Biden was literally the candidate that the establishment put their full force behind (including having Obama make calls to have other candidates drop to back him) in order to defeat Bernie in 2020. Biden himself said “nothing would fundamentally change”. A couple bones thrown here or there doesn’t change that. I don’t know if democrats are astroturfing here of all places or people are just deluding themselves into thinking he’s doing more than he actually is, but he’s really not.

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            Unfortunately I’m old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.

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                Hell yes, thank you. I’ll edit my comment if I read anything notable that I would like to ask you.

                Edit #1:

                when DOMA came up for a vote in the U.S. Senate on Sept. 10, 1996, Biden in his capacity representing Delaware in the U.S. Senate bowed to public sentiment at the time, voting in favor of the anti-gay law.

                Is the article implying that Biden is only voting in favor to ban gay marriage because he is succumbing to peer pressure?

                Edit# 2: damn it dude, this article makes me sad that Bernie got shafted. Thanks.

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                But the truth matters. Biden’s views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting-edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

                Okay I see, so he’s a two-faced politician who doesn’t understand the full picture. It’s all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don’t like him.

                So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?

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                    we’re no better than maga-ites

                    Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

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                This one won’t load for me because I have my firewall block the entire Facebook domain. Can you provide a summary?

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                    Marriage is between a man and a woman." - SENATOR JOE BIDEN (D-DE) (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 6/4/06)

                    Ok, so fuck Biden lol. What option is there for the next election cycle?