Frankly, good.
There has yet to be any of these purported “child protection” scams that would do a damn thing for kids, and only invades the privacy of people that have zero reason to be investigated in the first place
They could at least do on-device hash lookups and prevent sending. Has zero effect on privacy and does reduce CSAM.
Yah, that would be a great solution in comparison, but it’s still privacy invasive. Not as bad, but it’s still not giving people due process.
Which, not everywhere in the world recognizes that principle as a right, I am aware. But I do consider due process a right, and scanning anything on anyone’s devices without a legally justifiable reason is a violation of that.
I’m not willing to kowtow to a moral panic and just ignore the erosion of privacy “because the children”. And it is a moral panic. As bad as it is, as much as I personally would enjoy five minutes alone with someone that’s making or using kiddie porn of any stripe, it simply isn’t such a common thing that stripping everyone of their privacy, in any way is acceptable.
They wanna figure out a way to target individuals suspected of that kind of crime, awesome. Untargeted, sweeping invasions simply are not acceptable, and I do not care what the purported reason of the week is; kiddie porn, terrorism, security, stopping drugs, I do not care. I have committed no crime, and refuse to give away the presumption of innocence for myself or anyone else.
Ngl that’s pretty sus.
People are morons
yeah cracking down on the child trafficking networks operating on telegram would totally not do a thing /s
It wouldn’t. Anyone into that shit will just go somewhere else, and the price of that is yet another erosion of privacy.
yes if you go after people sharing it on the network you make it harder for them to access it. stop defending csam it’s creepy.
Look, just because people don’t agree that a specific method will be effective, that doesn’t mean they support it.
That’s shitty thinking, and even shittier behavior. You should be ashamed of yourself for going there in what was previously a civil, friendly discussion.
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Gods, people are just dumb.
I am so glad lemmy has a block function
If you block them, it amplifies them. Now you can no longer call them out.
When the West wants to censor the internet its always either child protection or national security.thats brought up as the reason.
The west
Are authoritarian regimes somehow supposed to be more opposed to using children to promote heightened surveillance?
Authoritarian regimes also do the same, although often with adult consentual porn instead of CSAM.
The authoritarian South Korea.
Authoritian regimes doesnt need to pretend. If they find out you are a risk they don’t need to gather evidence to get you in prison, so they don’t need to pretend they care about censoring the internet for the wrong reasons.
The issue here is the west want to do the same but need a valid justification. Instead of work to stop the actual abuse in the first place they want access to the only way for many people to share information safely.
You could be technically letrate and find your way around all the restrictions, but many people are not and they need access to secure communication channels to arrange there activism.
The fact we don’t see backlash against twitter, Facebook, Google, and Apple tells alot about what is this about.
The fact we are seeing more support for “consent” for kids, and the fact that there were many major cases such as Epstein and Maxwell which has been obscured or even hidden when it comes to major profilic people says alot about their intent.
They do need to pretend, because they need assistance from supposedly civilized states in their actions covered by that pretense.
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If they refused to hand over data that they had about individuals on a warrant, I can see how the arrest was kind of justified.
If the arrest was for refusing to install a backdoor for law enforcement to spy on anyone they want, then France needs to be kicked out of EU and sanctioned for human rights violations.
Systemic racism and religious discrimination persisted, including against Muslim women and girls. Racial profiling continued with impunity. Excessive restrictions on protests and excessive use of force by police continued. Mass protests and unrest followed the killing of a 17-year-old boy of Algerian descent by police at a traffic stop. Racist, xenophobic and anti-LGBTI vandalism and violent attacks were frequently reported.
Parliament passed highly controversial new laws authorizing the use of mass video surveillance technology by law enforcement and introducing discriminatory immigration, nationality and asylum restrictions.
Yeah, fuck France.
As a French? Yeah fuck France…
The manufacturing consent system seems to be in full swing on this one.
If there were a good alternative in the sense of public channels that don’t usually get banned, my consent they would get even earlier.
But the issue is - I don’t even know where to go to discuss shit. Despite TG being full of government trolls.
Despite TG being full of government trolls.
That’s the world we live in now. If it’s popular it will be full of trolls, government, corporate, all kind. Just somewhat popular, they are here on Lemmy too.
“Schemes” it’s as if they know they aren’t actually protecting anyone… Like they would just let anyone torment their children if they claimed religious protections and offered a big enough bribe(I know for a fact that is how it actually works). But sure, telegram is the problem not fed bastards hunting innocent people because the bad people bribed them to leave them alone. Be a 1% or be investigated when you don’t cow toe to the 1%. Your choice apparently.
imagine going to jail just because you refused to address the child abuse and csam on your own network.
Imagine only targetting Telegram and not Meta and Twitter.
Putin loves Elon (& got him to ruin Xhitter apparently) so no, Elon won’t get arrested
meta does get pointed out but not as much since meta actually does things to combat csam.
twitter gets called out ALL the time mostly because elon himself is intervening to reinstate people who share csam because he firedall the trust and safety teams.
Call me when Elon is arrested lol
Huh, it’s maybe as if, nooooo… it couldn’t be, the Zuck and Elon are my trusted friends, my confidants, they wouldn’t. They couldn’t. No way in hell they’d sell or otherwise compromise my personal data
